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  1. caber New Member

    joined: Feb 6, 2008
    291 posts
    Western Maryland
    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/grd/921416372.html - they have pics of the rack.

    FIREWOOD Service with SUPPLIED RACK. (District Only)

    Date: 2008-11-16, 1:18PM EST


    With emphasis on a service - get a proper storage solution and a supply of first class firewood - in maneagable quantities - and at a time that's convenient for you. For District of Columbia only.
    This is the concept:
    We'll come and set you up with your own circular 40 inch diameter steel firewood rack (with an attractive black powdered finish), and fill it with a supply of beautiful split, dry, high-heat content, aromatic hardwoods. Including delivery and stacking, rack assembly and proper placement (we'll advise you on where to put it), and a small starter set of special dense paper-roll kindling and starter fuel sticks: 140 dollars FOR THE FIRST TIME. Or 150 if you'd like a durable new tarp cover if you are storing your wood outside and need one.
    And if you like the wood and need a re-supply throughout the season, we'll come by and refill the rack for 80 dollars (and do it within 24hrs of your re-order). The rack holds one 1/4 face cord (or 16 cubic feet) - the perfect quantity for the city dweller with limited space and who may not be burning wood fires every evening (or as the primary heat source).
    A rack's highly recommended to keep your wood off of the ground, dry and free of termites. And it simply looks great - for your patio, or on-hand, for having wood right besides your door.
    Order soon, as the list for deliveries is growing, and while these excellent racks are still in supply!

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    I have one of these racks on our porch. Paid $25 for it. 1/4 of a face cord is generous calculation. But assuming it is correct; at $80 1/4, that makes $320 for a FACE cord. Plus $60 for a $25 rack.
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  2. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    $80/16 cu ft of wood delivered? That's about a buck a split. I'm in the wrong business.
  3. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    Since there is no official unit of measure called a "face cord" in Canada, it's hard to dispute the math, but what is commonly known as a "face cord" is a usually a third of a cord if bucked to 16" lengths. They claim the rack holds a quarter of a face cord or 16 cubic feet. By their definition that would be 4x16=64 cubic feet for a face cord and a true cord is 128 cubic feet.

    So, they are charging $640 for a cord of wood, seasoned I presume. Man, I'm on the wrong end of this business.
  4. staplebox Member

    joined: Jan 2, 2008
    207 posts
    Eastern CT
    I love it. I'd never pay for that but I'd sure as hell be their SE CT distributor.
    I wouldn't even need to use the truck, I could deliver from the back of my Accord and save on gas.

    I am constantly amazed a what people will pay for things. My wife got a catalog in the mail the other day that wanted $1,200 for a TV tray.
    I got nervous just having it in the house so I threw it in the stove.
  5. Prada Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2008
    214 posts
    Ohio
    *faint*!! lol Wow could we ever make some awesome money to sell to some of these 'city folks' or what!!!!!!! :gulp:
    What is sad, is that I bet this guy is getting orders just from the way he wrote up his add!
    Some busy professional people in the city have more money than sense and know nothing at all about firewood etc. I gotta give it to this guy if he does get orders, because he emphasizes the fact that he is selling service and that he is!
  6. InTheRockies New Member

    joined: Aug 15, 2008
    366 posts
    Northern US Rockies
    I realize electric rates have gone up since I left the DC burbs and that everyone is suffering shell shock back there (I was in shock at how much more electricity runs here when I first relocated west and I don't have an all-electric house here in the countryside). However, I still suspect the majority of people aren't wood burners, even with higher electric rates. Many of my friends in the DC area that had wood burning fireplaces have converted them to propane rather than choosing to buy a more efficient wood burning insert or stove. They feel there are too many hassles to face with wood burning, including restrictive covenants and bylaws that in some communities included things like wood piles. I say good luck to this person. He's industrious, that's for certain.
  7. WES999 Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2008
    757 posts
    Mass north of Boston
    I don't think the numbers add up, a 40" rack with 16" long splits ( guesstimating form the pic) would = 11.6 cu.ft. for $80
    $6.90/ cu.ft6
    Seems more like $883/ cord if my math is right. :ahhh:

    Reminds of the Cheech & Chong car payment plan: $50 down and $50 a month... for 50 years.
  8. fishinpa Member

    joined: Oct 7, 2008
    170 posts
    SE PA
    Being everyone else has said this is questionable, I'll mention that that rack looks just like the one I just saw @ Home Cheapo for $29.00.

    NEVERMIND: I just re-read the origional post and saw you mentioned the approximate rack cost already. My bad.
  9. Prada Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2008
    214 posts
    Ohio
    We picked 3 of them up last year during Lowe's end of the season close out sale for $6 each! haha
    My hubby says they are really cheapO built too. lol
  10. Cory92 New Member

    joined: Oct 23, 2008
    37 posts
    Central Ohio
    Makes sense to me that this would work in D.C. Area is full of govt. workers used to paying $600 for a toilet seat and $300 for a hammer when they are spending our tax $$$$
  11. Prada Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2008
    214 posts
    Ohio
    I hear ya Cory92! lol
  12. Bubbavh Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 22, 2008
    475 posts
    NJ Piney
    At that price it's cheaper to heat with any other source... even oil!!!!
  13. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,475 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Ah, but wood heat has the ambiance . . . I have yet to hear of anyone in the romantic mood turning up the oil thermostat and sitting in front of their oil boiler with a couple glasses of wine. :) ;)
  14. the_dude Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 26, 2008
    298 posts
    Southern WI
    Especially since this guy sells those "aromatic" hardwoods.
  15. Bubbavh Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 22, 2008
    475 posts
    NJ Piney
    Nothing more romantic to me than the smell of hickory... Reminds me of BBQ! <--------MMMMMMMMMM BBQ!
  16. Corey Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    2,009 posts
    Midwest
    I think the math is OK - even if it is a bit creative. A 'face cord' is usually defined as a stack of wood 4 foot high x 8 foot wide x how ever long the wood happens to be cut. The 'typical' length seems to be 16 inches because 3 stacks of 16 inches = 48 inches or 4 feet - and an 8 foot x 4 foot x 4 foot stack gives a 'true' cord of wood. But nothing in 'face cord' specifically states how thick the wood is. It could be 6" long, 12" long, 16" or what ever all you know is looking at the face, it should be 8 feet x 4 feet or 32 square feet total.

    The guy says he has a 40" diameter rack - that works out to 8.7 square feet - where 1/4 face cord would be 8 square feet, so I guess that is one way you could consider it a 'generous' 1/4 face cord. Though it would be really 'generous' if the logs were each about 16 feet long!
  17. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,417 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    He is selling to a different customer than people at this fourm big city will pay for service like this.(this wood is not being used as heat)
    "Ah, but wood heat has the ambiance . . . I have yet to hear of anyone in the romantic mood turning up the oil thermostat and sitting in front of their oil boiler with a couple glasses of wine"
  18. burntime New Member

    joined: Aug 18, 2006
    2,395 posts
    C'mon hunting season!
    I think he has been smoking something other than wood!!! :lol:
  19. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,417 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    1 thing you can always count on is people are lazy or dont have time. They buy 6-7 small pices of oak at the gas station aroud here for 5 bucks!
  20. burntime New Member

    joined: Aug 18, 2006
    2,395 posts
    C'mon hunting season!
    I wish I could get a call from those people! I would quit my day job. Look how many go to 5-bucks (starbucks) for coffee. Laziness definitely keeps the economy going!!!
  21. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,417 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    I live close to two camp grounds and sell 3 bundles for 10 bucks in the sumer. Its more work at the size they want it in, but what the heck Iam not arguing at that price point!
  22. the_dude Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 26, 2008
    298 posts
    Southern WI
    Wal-mart around here sells firewood in a box for $6 or $7. Out of curiosity, I had to open the box. There were 5-6 small to medium splits of an unrecognizable wood. The cardboard box probably had more BTU's than the wood.
  23. CowboyAndy New Member

    joined: Feb 29, 2008
    744 posts
    Chateaugay, NY
    I remember reading a thread about the wal mart wood somewhere... it worked out to be something like $700-$900 a cord...
  24. Chris S New Member

    joined: Jan 22, 2008
    339 posts
    Orange County NY
    In my area firewood goes for 200-250 for a true cord. My understanding is in NJ weights and measures will stop you from selling a "face cord"
    A landscaper friend who worked hard to make $ selling wood decided this year to cut everything in half and pallet it up for Chimineas now that full cotd is bringing in close to $ 500 and he's sold out. And you have to go outside to enloy it!!
  25. DiscoInferno Minister of Fire

    There are relatively few wood burners in the greater DC area, and fewer still in DC proper. It's picked up some this year, but the new burners are looking to save money so I don't think he's selling too many of these. But if he does then the price was, by definition, right. There are several other firewood dealers on the local craigslist selling to DC for around $225/cord, so people have other options.

    It's a way better deal than this guy, who has been trying to sell a small pile of cedar for $200 for months: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/for/920775846.html
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