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Creosote on Glass Doors

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Swamp Fox, Mar 2, 2006.

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  1. Swamp Fox

    Swamp Fox Member

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    I've done a search to see how people are dealing with creosote on the glass doors of wood stoves and how best they tackle the problem. I have in my posession the following: Rutland Hearth & Grill Conditioning Glass Cleaner with Silicone; Rutland Fireplace Glass & Hearth Cleaner (non-corrosive Ultra-Cling Formula; Speedy White Hearth and Stove Biodegradable Cleaner; and The Chimney Sweeping Log Soot Out Glass & Surface Cleaner. None of these are working very well. I get the "baked on" filmy/foggy stuff and you can somewhat see through, and I get the baked on caked on dark black bumpy creosote. Some of both come off with a lot of elbow grease, nylon scouring pad, tooth brush. I can't believe the effort and time it takes to get the glass clean again. I saw on here not to long ago that one of you said they use a razor blade to scrape it off. Will using a razor blade (at a very low angle) to get the creosote off damage the glass, or possibly any coating that might be on the glass? I experimented with a razor blade a little last night on one of the corners and it seem to be easier than anything I've used in the past. Any opinions on if Easy-Off oven cleaner would work? The manual only says to use a "Non-abrasive household cleaner." Thanks!

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  2. bruce

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    it should burn off,, turn the draft up and burn it hotter for a few
  3. babalu87

    babalu87 New Member

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    Wet newspaper and ashes
    I cant believe how well it works

    HOT fires work too
  4. elkimmeg

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    my question to you is why you are getting this type of buildup? Is the wood moist?
    Are there air leaks from the door or glass gaskets
  5. tutu_sue

    tutu_sue New Member

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    I find Flitz is the bomb. It also contains silicone. First I wipe with a damp sponge to remove any ash and white powdery stuff and then Flitz with a dry paper towel in a circular motion. Polish with another dry paper towel. After a couple of cleanings with Flitz, i was able to clean the glass with just a damp towel. I noticed the glass seems smoother and more clear each time I use the Flitz. Cleaner than new!!
  6. Mike Wilson

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    Flitz and ceramic glass would not be my preferred combination. Yes, I know it would work, but long term... I'd steer away from that combination, seriously.

    -- Mike
  7. warren88

    warren88 New Member

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    A light touch with 00 steel wool works just fine for me. Been using it for over 12 years on the same Lopi Answer door with no scratching of glass.
  8. CrazyAboutOrchids

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    Not an expert here, but seems like maybe wood is not seasoned and you are burning too low or cranked down too low. Also, have you checked your door gasket for leaks? I burn daily, although not 24 hours per day as I don't get the fire going again right away in the morning it more like late morning mid afternoon before we get started up again. We have a Lopi Freedom. Even when I crank down at night, so long as the wood is seasoned and I have the proper build up of hot coals, it's normally just a quick wipe with newspaper to clear up any film that is left in the morning or I can get rid of it by running a hot fire as well during that initial start up. It is only when I crank down at night and there is something in there that is not well seasoned that I get any build up on my glass. Even then, a quick spray or two of Speedy White will remove the tough stuff.

    Again, not an expert, but I'd be concerned about the build up in your chimney as I look at the glass door as a monitor of how well I am burning. If it's fairly clean, just filmy, when I get up the next morning, I know I am right in the ball park of where I should be. But if you've got lots of build up on your glass, think of what you can't see up inside your chimney.
  9. MountainStoveGuy

    MountainStoveGuy Minister of Fire

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    Do we know if this stove has a airwash? some of the older models out there will never stay clean.
  10. ERPARKER

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    Same here. I've been using fine steel wool in combination with the Rutland Glass Cleaner - for anything that remains after a good hot fire. The creosote comes right off.
  11. MountainStoveGuy

    MountainStoveGuy Minister of Fire

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    One note to hearthstone users, the glass in your stove has a IR coating on the inside surface. I would be carefull using anything but ceramic glass cleaner on it.
  12. Rob From Wisconsin

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    Don't use Oven Cleaners. The "In-Laws" used it once,
    and it actually ate through the door gasket in spots.

    Rob
  13. Rob From Wisconsin

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    Interesting...
    Sometimes there are areas of ash build-up when my
    door gets dirty, and when you wipe-away the ash-covered
    areas, clean spots develope w/ little effort....
    Any problems w/ scratching???

    Rob
  14. Marcus

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    I found if I get it while it is fresh that just a wet paper towel works fine.
  15. Hillbilly

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    Try Dawn Power Dissolver made by Proctor Gamble. Spray it on the glass, let it sit for about 15-20 minutes, wipe off with paper towel. Works great for the tough build up.

    Terry
  16. CK-1

    CK-1 Feeling the Heat

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    Long as I start a small fire with kindling and add bigger woods later, I get nothing on the glass. If I do, it burns away during long burns..
  17. OldSnipe

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    I use Easy Off oven cleaner once or twice a year on the stubborn spots that seem to grow. Clean it while the glass is still warm after shutdown. I wouldn't make a habit of it. but it works on my old Glowking pellet stove.

    Neighbor claims that it will cause irreparable harm but since he told me that he has had a chimney fire, a heart attack and his wife divorced him. Me, I haven't had any of those problems.
  18. Mo Heat

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    That's funny :), but alarming if true :down: ...

    Cat stove glass: My cat stove tends to put about 80% of any soot or creosote onto the glass when I first fire it up. If I'm careful getting things going without producing too much smoke (using top down method, top down modified, hot kindle, etc.), and don't fire too low (this is always tempting with a cat when temps are warmer, but the glass is likely much dirtier than the chimney, so probably no worry there), then the glass tends to stay cleaner than if I throw together an ad hoc fire without paying much attention.

    If the glass is dirtying up at start-up, you might just need to try a different start up method. If it gets dirty during an overnight burn, try burning a bit hotter if possible. If it gets dirty even when you are burning full tilt and starting your kindling clean, your door gasket may be leaking, your wood may be wet(ish), your door may not be 'air washing' effectively (design, obstruction, etc.), or your draft might be weak.

    If you can raise the thermostat and burn it off, you have your answer.

    Lots of things to consider.
  19. Todd

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    Boy am I glad I don't have this problem anymore! Iv'e had my new stove for 3 weeks and the glass stays spotless no matter how I burn it.

    My old stove glass always cleaned up good with windex.
  20. Sandor

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    Ya have to wonder. If the glass is mucked up, what does the chimney look like?

    Have friends with an insert, and the glass is black. No liner, poor draft, lousy fires.

    When I burnt a Regency, I used a product called Fireview, and it worked great. Now that I burn a Woodstock, I have no issues.

    The womens VC Resolute Acclaim needs the Windex treatment every few weeks. Nothing major, nice stove. Any more buildup then that, there are problems.
  21. Rhone

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    I've tried a lot of things, and the only thing that I've found works with success is the Rutland Hearth & Grill Glass Cleaner. It is in a totally different category over the other products I've tried.

    Put some of that on a paper towel, use A LOT of elbow grease, and it actually comes off much easier than anything else I've tried. There is no magic, no matter what it's not like you just put it on, wait 3 minutes, and then just wipe it off. That carbon desposit always needs some serious elbow grease. At least the thin areas clean up easily, the medium thickness needs a some elbow grease, and the thick areas are always very difficult even with the Rutland Polish. But, it cut the cleaning of my glass down to about 15-20 minutes where previously I was over an hour. When I get a good fire going and it's cleaned some of the carbon deposits, a quick cleaning with the polish is usually all it takes except for the extreme edges of my glass. I leave that for spring time and just leave them thick black. Going for total clean is just not a battle worth fighting IMHO as the very edges always turn just as black again in a few days.
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    Question for the experienced burners: How well does creosote build-up in the firebox, that you can see, reflect the build-up in the flue, that you can't see? My firebox is clean and I have very little build-up on my glass. Is this a strong indication that my flue is relatively clean as well? I'm not going to skip a post-season cleaning but, as someone else mentioned, I'd sleep a little better.
  23. Rob From Wisconsin

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    Gave it a try myself, and it works great!!
    Better than the Rutland stuff I always use!!
    Requires hardly less elbow grease to clean glass.
    I'm sold on it for now.....
  24. the_guad

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    I use a trick that I learned for my car. I call it wall papering:

    Get paper towels and wet them with stove glass cleaner (brand of your choice)

    Stick them to window strip by strip

    Continue to do this till you've covered the window with the wetted paper towels

    Once the window is completely covered rewet them and wait a few minutes

    Before the paper dries out remove the towels and wipe away excess buildup

    Burn a nice hot fire so this doesn't happen and make sure your gasket seals well.
  25. Woodburner

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    Note to HearthStone owners...the IR coating is on the outside, not the inside! I use wet soggy newspapers and ashes when the glass needs to be cleaned. Usually about 2 times a year.
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