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Scary!
Guy didn't obviously have an escape route (and backup route) planned; seems like he was scrambling for a clear route out.
Guy didn't obviously have an escape route (and backup route) planned; seems like he was scrambling for a clear route out.
Yes, and he probably wasn't expecting to have to run from something like that. I'd be shaking for a week if that were me.
TWilk117
Feeling the Heat
Sawset
Minister of Fire
There is a report put out by I think the US Forest service, that gives circumstances and possible future training based on accidents. A good number of the incidences happened with the faller in the designated escape route. Limbs breaking and rolling back, stems splitting (as was here), tops hitting neighboring trees and springing back, trees falling in an unanticipated direction, were some of the major reasons.
His escape route was uphill over a mossy rock...fail!
Yeah, Red Oaks here are notorious for having rotted-out cores.
I wonder if that was a Pin Oak, with those drooping branches..?
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SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
TWilk117
Feeling the Heat
Grizzerbear
Minister of Fire
Do you have a link? I'd like to read that.
When I fell, I have one main escape route planned and cleared, and a second in a different direction in case the first one ends up looking like the wrong one. I try to plan those paths so they put another large tree between me and the one that's being felled. When the tree starts going down, I drop the saw, make a very quick decision as to which route to take, and do my best Usian Bolt imitation. I'm curious if this is anything like what you all do.
Sawset
Minister of Fire
A safe haven or safety tree I think was emphasized in the below link also - escape route, with a defined safe haven from roll backs and falls from above. I would search those out in the past, but thought it interesting being mentioned here.
Report released for tree strike fatality on the 2018 Ferguson Fire - Wildfire Today
The National Park Service has released the Serious Accident Investigation Factual Report for the accident in which Captain Brian Hughes of the Arrowhead Hotshots was killed last year. Captain Hughes died when a 105-foot tall Ponderosa Pine fell in an unexpected direction during a hazardous tree...
wildfiretoday.com
When I took the National Park Service training they really drilled preparing an escape route into the cut plan. The cut plan did cross all the t's and dotted all the i's but just was not practical for working forester. We were required to have two folks for every cut, one to do the cut and one to observe and fill out the forms. Probably made sense for a high hazard tree in a confined area but I just do not see it happening in the real world. Of course NPS investigates all incidents and if the rules werent followed they could allegedly refuse the claim for medical benefits to volunteers. I did not renew my saw license when it ran out.
Years ago the mill I worked for had one of the last company logging crews that logged our land. They had real good safety numbers and helped a local firm, Labonvilles, refine the kevlar chainsaw chap. At some point the mill sold the land and laid off the crews who went to work for local contractors. Most of them didnt make it a year without getting hurt. They quickly figured out that they were hired to crank out volume and in order to do volume they had to cut corners. If they didnt they would get told at the end of the week that they were not needed anymore. These days most of the wood in my area is done with a machine, about the only chainsaw folks are single man operations or arborists.
Years ago the mill I worked for had one of the last company logging crews that logged our land. They had real good safety numbers and helped a local firm, Labonvilles, refine the kevlar chainsaw chap. At some point the mill sold the land and laid off the crews who went to work for local contractors. Most of them didnt make it a year without getting hurt. They quickly figured out that they were hired to crank out volume and in order to do volume they had to cut corners. If they didnt they would get told at the end of the week that they were not needed anymore. These days most of the wood in my area is done with a machine, about the only chainsaw folks are single man operations or arborists.
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
Whenever I fell trees I prefer to have a spotter. After investing in a skidding winch and snatch block I never fell a tree without them. I can put tension on a tree from almost any direction, keeps my tractor out of the way, and I can get the trees out easily of course.
AlbergSteve
Minister of Fire
MissMac
Minister of Fire
We used to show this video at work to the new FireRangers when we were teaching them how to use the saw. We don't have big wood like that in Ontario, but still - some valuable lessons and reality checks in that video. Using a saw is no joke.
