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  1. drewboy New Member

    joined: Oct 8, 2008
    185 posts
    Lakes Region, NH
    I scored a standing dead elm from one of the yards at work, I got it home, it's cut, but I can't seem to get a good split on any size piece. I have an old maul that kicks azz on a load of maple I also got this week but I look like a fool trying to split the elm...any tips, suggestions? It sounds like a baseball bat when hit against itself so I think it's been deceased for a while but if I keep hitting this stuff with no results, I'll be deceased.
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  2. Nonprophet Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2009
    517 posts
    Oregon
    I've used my Fiskars Super splitting axe on 14-20" green elm rounds--it went through them like a hot knife through butter! I have some large 30" rounds that are REALLY tough, still the Fiskars get them if I'm methodical/strategic in where I hit. Elm is tough stuff to split........

    NP
  3. TreePapa Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 24, 2008
    583 posts
    Southern Calif.
    Sounds like the eukie (Eucalyptus) I got last week. It was cut in rounds (avg. 8" dia.) and seems to have been seasoned for at least 2 or 3 yrs. Very dry. I managed to split 2 or 3 pieces w/ Thumper (mega maul clone), but the rest (about 1/6th cord total), furgetaboutit. I swung Thumper on a couple of pieces so much that my arms started to tingle.

    My solution is to rent a 20 ton (or so) splitter. After my last rental experience, though, I'm gonna bring a couple of sample pieces to split at the yard and be sure I get one in good working order.

    Peace,
    - Sequoia
  4. Mmaul Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 10, 2007
    512 posts
    Muncie, IN
    Here is how you do it, did this two years back, Get a wood grenade wedge and sledge split it in two right down the middle, next start nocking off the sides of it a little at a time, My Monster maul went right through it after it was split in two.
  5. Archie Member

    joined: Jul 31, 2009
    228 posts
    Northern Virginia
    I believe the only cure for your disease is "hydraulics."
  6. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,420 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    +1 hit it with 20-30 ton
  7. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,181 posts
    Michigan
    My 20 ton does really nice on elm and we burn a bunch of it almost every year. Before we had the splitter, I used a sledge and 3 wedges on the elm. It is tough but sometimes you will find one that splits pretty easy. Cherish that baby because you won't find many like that.
  8. Wood Duck Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 26, 2009
    3,764 posts
    Central PA
    Shorter rounds are easier to split, so maybe cut you rounds shorter. I realize it may be too late for this tree, since it sounds like you've already cut it to length, but thought I'd mention it anyway. I use an 8 lb maul and split elm the usual way, but with much more work and more swings required to get the job done. Maybe try taking a piece off the edge of each round and work from there.
  9. Corey Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    2,009 posts
    Midwest
    If you're trying to split it through the middle by hand, give up now. If you can, try to slab small crescents off the outside and just keep slabbing 2-3 inch wide chunks off. Once you get to the big chunk in the center, throw that off to the side and grab it when you're ready for an 'all nighter' burn.
  10. Duetech Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 15, 2008
    1,436 posts
    S/W MI
    I have never split anything that split consistently hard like elm. Like cozy said slab the sides. Anything that bounces the spitting maul or wedges goes to the hydraulic pile (one doink or bounce back builds a hydraulic splitter pile rather quick but saves you a lot of wasted energy which may make it easier to justify renting a splitter). Be careful with the manual maul and wedges. That wood will spit those tools right back at you with enough velocity to do you some serious harm. There's different strokes for different folks but with the maul I turn the round so the lowest portion of the trunk is the part I try to split.
  11. Danno77 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    4,751 posts
    Hamilton, IL
    i sometimes find that wood that was difficult to split is easier after a couple of reallly cold days. I'm talking around zero F.
  12. savageactor7 Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 25, 2008
    3,699 posts
    CNY
    Even with a gas splitter elm can be a tough take...for the little you have I'd noodle it.
  13. HittinSteel Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    1,431 posts
    Northeastern Ohio

    I agree, either noodle it or hit it with a hydraulic splitter.
  14. Wet1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 27, 2008
    2,528 posts
    USA
    When the wood pisses me off, I find it to be a good excuss to fire up the big f&@%ing saw! ;)
  15. drewboy New Member

    joined: Oct 8, 2008
    185 posts
    Lakes Region, NH
    Thanks for the replies, I'm glad I look like an idiot for a reason. I'll try going from the edges and then in. I had some elm that was already split in my pile last year and it burned real nice so I'd really like to make these logs into splits for the cold weather. I may try splitting them once the temp drops a little more, I don't think that drying is going to be an issue - there was no bark on the tree. BTW - I hauled the whole thing in the back of my mustang gt - it took a few trips!

    Thanks again,
    Rob
  16. HittinSteel Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    1,431 posts
    Northeastern Ohio
    Yep, even if you can't find big wood to cut, it always nice to have displacement when the stubborn round comes along!
  17. maplewood Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 12, 2008
    610 posts
    NB Canada
    Use a wedge and pound it through. Have a spare wedge to open it up from the side if the first wedge gets stuck. Done it hundreds of times.
    Happy burning.
  18. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,309 posts
    Northern Illinois
    I have ran into some elm that would laugh at the mightiest of mauls. Then I get pushy with it.

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  19. Corey Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    2,009 posts
    Midwest
    ^^^ And that is actually a clean split compared to some I've seen/done.
  20. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,309 posts
    Northern Illinois
    like this????

    Oh, by the way, if your looking to rent a splitter - this stuff would of laughed at a 20 ton. It made my big boy grunt.

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  21. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,420 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Thats Nasty!
  22. Wet1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 27, 2008
    2,528 posts
    USA
    Yep, but I'll bet it seasons quick and makes nice kindling! :cheese:
  23. efoyt Member

    joined: Sep 18, 2008
    116 posts
    Maine
    Elm is the only hardwood I will not take for free. I have had 3 die on my land. The second and third have gone to the guy that lives next door. I've found that even well dried elm sucks up water. And chopping them is like tring to blow out thouse trick candles.
  24. wendell Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 29, 2008
    2,026 posts
    Madison, WI
    Even if the tree was dead, anything over 4" is going to be too wet to burn.
  25. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,181 posts
    Michigan
    I agree with Wendell; best to figure on burning it next year. One exception might be the very top part of the trees. Sometimes that can be burned right away but generally still best to wait. It won't rot.
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