englander 25 pdvc black glass

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  1. 86 toy

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    not sure if this is a normal trait for these stoves but my glass gets a black soot build up on the right side after about 2-3 hours of run time. it does it faster on higher heat settings it also seems like my fire is kind of lazy on the right side also. i have replaced my burn pot gasket as per the suggestion of englander and perfored the flame test around the door and glass to look for leaks but found nothing. am i being fussy or does this really sound like a problem?
     
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    Might be pellet brand...
     
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    i get the same on my 25-pdv but not after a couple hours as you mentioned, i'd say 10/12 hours or so...

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    Strange that it would be worse on high heat setting. As mentioned above, could be pellets, as I know nothing about hardwood heat pellets.

    I guess that I want to ask the usual question " when was the last COMPLETE cleaning on this stove?" ....and I don't just mean empty the burnpot & vacuum the firebox.....I mean EVERYTHING (ash traps, blowers, pipes, etc).
     
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    ah?

    jay, you ok? LOL....

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    What?

    macman was saying he didn't have info on these pellets.

    If I new anything about the stove I would post it, But I have not a clue about the Englanders. I will leave that for you guys.

    Sorry if I oopsed!

    Hay I am entitled to an oops or too. No?

    jay
     
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    i forgot to mention that i have tried about 6 different brands of pellets some are worse than others but they all do it. and also this has been an issue since the stove was new back in febuary this year and i did a full cleaning about a month ago including the leaf blower trick. i have an oak installed and i bought the vent pipe kit and installed it exactly as the intructions said. it's just weird how the fire is lazy only on the right side i'll try to get a picture and post it on here so you guys can see what i'm talking about
     
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    Glad to hear you did the complete cleaning including w/ leafblower.

    I guess based on your 1st post that you've spoken to Mike H. or one of the factory techs about this.....have you called them back & reported what changed, if anything?
     
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    I don't have this model stove but I think black glass pretty well goes with the territory. It's easy to clean it off so don't sweat it.
     
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    These stoves do this but not as quick as you say What heat setting are you on? 1/1 2/2 3/3 etc etc
    Bottom factory preset buttons what are they at 6/4/1 is factory for mine (2008) model
    you can change the bottom settings like to 5/4/1 or 6/5/1 but that only works on heat setting 1 and 2, anything above factory default's rule 6/4/1 are you using a outside fresh air supply.
    How old is stove? when did you last clean the exhaust blower fan blades since the gum up with soot after about a ton of pellets.
    you will figure it out good luck.
     
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    yeah i spoke with a tech and havn't called them back yet. i just posted here to see what you guys think. i'm gonna call englander back tomorrow
     
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    stove is a 2008 model . my bottom settings were 6/4/1. i have the low settings set pretty good at 5/4/1. the burn seems to get dirty at heat setting 4 and higher
     
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    I get the same glass problems but generally after 10 or so hours with how I normally run it , the right side is definatley more active for me , I have my stove set to 5-4-1 and mostly run it heat setting 2 blower 3.. I have noticed on higher settings it does happen faster. I have just recently cleaned it fairly well, vac'd ever thing out inside removing all plates and replacing the pot gasket. Instead of doing the leaf blower I hooked up my dust collection system from the shop, sucked out some ash but not as much as I was thinking I would get. I do vac everywhere once or twice a week, run a pellet vent brush down the vent every 2 or 3 weeks. Just got a new blower gasket so I think I may take that apart this weekend and see what I find. would love to hear the outcome.... it does clean up easy though with a damp paper towel....
     
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    I get the same thing, just wipe with a damp paper towel and all is well.
     
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    I get black on the right side also. I don't think it's a problem. I use a wet paper towel.

    Not sure if it's connected but I also get more carbon buildup on the bottom right of the auger tube. Maybe the way it flows?
     
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    I also get the same with the carbon buildup.

    Do you guys turn off the stove before you open the door?

    I usually do a shutdown daily and then clean the glass/burnpot, what do you guys do ?

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    Pretty much the same as you, shutdown daily and then clean the glass/burnpot
    Sometimes I will do 36 or 48 hour burn But that involves an occasional quick ash clean out with stove running
     
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    Make sure air holes under wear plate, in sides of burn pot are not clogged with ash.
     
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    You could try bumping the middle number to 9 and give it a try. I always run my stove on 4-6/9/1. I never touch the middle number anymore.
     
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    i do a shutdown daily to clean the glass and burnpot. but i also remove the ash from the burnpot with the stove running about every 10-12 hours to keep the flame nice
     
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    so it seems like what i am talking about is normal operation if alot of you guys who have this stove get the same build up. i love this little stove it gets plenty hot and keeps most of my home warm with a little creative air circulation
     
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    Ditto
     
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    I use a dry paper towel every couple of days
    Sometimes when I do a serious cleaning I use a damp paper towel. Make sure the glas is completly cooled of it could get ugly fast.

    I get more when running mine at the low settings. Havent had to bump it up yet due to warmer weather so far.
     
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    With this weather in the low 40"s and burning Curran pellets (they burn hotter than the penningtons I used last year) the stove was baking us out of the house even on setting 1/2 and 1/1 with low burn settings at 5/4/1 so tweaked it down to 4/4/1 and still plenty of heat.
     
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