http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnqVeaKj23c&feature=related
seems to be splitting the wood up pretty quickly.
seems to be splitting the wood up pretty quickly.
As you can see in the video, if it can't split, you just disengage the lever and give it another shot.mywaynow said:Looks impressive with whatever they are cutting. Don't think it would be very effective on nasty Pin Oak or Maple though. What do you do when the splitter can't split what it started? Looked them up and they are pricey too. 5.5 horse version is 2900, 9 hp is over 4k. What was the kid doing behind the unit in the video? Feeding the Hampsters running the engine?
Seen them as in seen video? Have you ever used one?Backwoods Savage said:I've seen them many times. They do not impress me and I do not think they are any faster. It is all in technique. I've watched others splitting wood and just have to shake my head watching all the wasted effort and motion. I simply sit and split. Easy does it, and you can get lots done in a little time.
So admittedly you're making a statement about it's operation based upon videos that you've watched and you feel qualified to make a statement such as this, "I do not think they are any faster"?Backwoods Savage said:Don't need to use one myself as I can tell just from watching several videos on this thing that it is not what I want and not what most folks think it is. It will do nicely for some things but not for most wood burners. Also, bear in mind that in the video he probably has someone feeding him his wood. What if he had to get his own? It won't be in the same place all the time then. What about splitting harder to split woods? What about larger logs, etc.? No, I'll stick to the hydraulics.
And that would be different with a hydraulic splitter? If you had a hydraulic splitter with a stationary wedge it wouldn't be any different than this. The only difference is this one moves much faster. If you got your hand in a hydraulic it's still going to do just as much damage, it doesn't matter how fast it is, you still can't react fast enough to stop a hydraulic splitter if your hand is in the way. I don't understand your concern.mywaynow said:I don't like the potential of my hand guiding a log against a blindly located wedge either. This video shows a guy hustling to split as much as possible. Certainly can sell a splitter that way, but can also get a heck of an injury. To each his own, I would not change my choice if I could.
mywaynow said:Looks impressive with whatever they are cutting. Don't think it would be very effective on nasty Pin Oak or Maple though. What do you do when the splitter can't split what it started? Looked them up and they are pricey too. 5.5 horse version is 2900, 9 hp is over 4k. What was the kid doing behind the unit in the video? Feeding the Hampsters running the engine?
CountryBoy19 said:For most people hydraulics splitters work great, and for the cost they really are great, but that doesn't mean they are superior. For higher production splitting a splitter like this just can't be beat IMHO.
lukem said:CountryBoy19 said:For most people hydraulics splitters work great, and for the cost they really are great, but that doesn't mean they are superior. For higher production splitting a splitter like this just can't be beat IMHO.
For high-volume a hydraulic splitter with a multi-way wedge is probably the fastest. One pass and you have 8 splits. Hard to beat that.
CountryBoy19: "And that would be different with a hydraulic splitter? If you had a hydraulic splitter with a stationary wedge it wouldn't be any different than this. The only difference is this one moves much faster. If you got your hand in a hydraulic it's still going to do just as much damage, it doesn't matter how fast it is, you still can't react fast enough to stop a hydraulic splitter if your hand is in the way. I don't understand your concern."mywaynow said:I don't like the potential of my hand guiding a log against a blindly located wedge either. This video shows a guy hustling to split as much as possible. Certainly can sell a splitter that way, but can also get a heck of an injury. To each his own, I would not change my choice if I could.
mywaynow said:Sounds like your the salesman for this line?
They are expensive because they have a near monopoly on this type of unit. Rack & pinions are not expensive compared to hyd pumps,valves, cylinders, tanks, etc etc, RandyCountryBoy19 said:As you can see in the video, if it can't split, you just disengage the lever and give it another shot.mywaynow said:Looks impressive with whatever they are cutting. Don't think it would be very effective on nasty Pin Oak or Maple though. What do you do when the splitter can't split what it started? Looked them up and they are pricey too. 5.5 horse version is 2900, 9 hp is over 4k. What was the kid doing behind the unit in the video? Feeding the Hampsters running the engine?
They expensive because the mechanism that makes them work. The biggest advantages of the super-split style is that they require much less power (smaller engine, less fuel, easier to start etc), and they operate much faster. They automatically return once they get to the end of their stroke.
Seen them as in seen video? Have you ever used one?Backwoods Savage said:I've seen them many times. They do not impress me and I do not think they are any faster. It is all in technique. I've watched others splitting wood and just have to shake my head watching all the wasted effort and motion. I simply sit and split. Easy does it, and you can get lots done in a little time.
WhitePine said:Just watched the video. I don't work that hard using a maul. :lol:
If that shaky jake splitting table is what they supply as standard equipment, I'm not impressed.
CountryBoy19 said:So admittedly you're making a statement about it's operation based upon videos that you've watched and you feel qualified to make a statement such as this, "I do not think they are any faster"?Backwoods Savage said:Don't need to use one myself as I can tell just from watching several videos on this thing that it is not what I want and not what most folks think it is. It will do nicely for some things but not for most wood burners. Also, bear in mind that in the video he probably has someone feeding him his wood. What if he had to get his own? It won't be in the same place all the time then. What about splitting harder to split woods? What about larger logs, etc.? No, I'll stick to the hydraulics.
Now that we've established that, we'll move on to the truth.
I don't know of any hydraulic splitter out there that can split wood that fast, the matter of feeding it and keeping splits clear of the splitter are moot points because you have to do that just the same with hydraulics. The main improvement is in cycle time. When splitting with hydraulic you patiently wait for the ram to move forward and split the wood, then you wait for it to move backwards to maneuver the split in place and repeat the process. That takes a lot of time, even a fast hydraulic cycle time of 15 seconds or so is ten times slower than this is. So how can it not be any faster?
The force applied by the flywheel on this splitter is magnitudes larger than the force of any hydraulic splitter I know of. The only different between the two is that one is an impact force and the other is a continuous force. The hydraulic splitter can continue powering through nasty crotches and y's, while the super-split may take a couple whacks. But the few times you have to hit piece multiple times still doesn't make the process take more time than hydraulic splitting on a whole.
For most people hydraulics splitters work great, and for the cost they really are great, but that doesn't mean they are superior. For higher production splitting a splitter like this just can't be beat IMHO.
And that would be different with a hydraulic splitter? If you had a hydraulic splitter with a stationary wedge it wouldn't be any different than this. The only difference is this one moves much faster. If you got your hand in a hydraulic it's still going to do just as much damage, it doesn't matter how fast it is, you still can't react fast enough to stop a hydraulic splitter if your hand is in the way. I don't understand your concern.mywaynow said:I don't like the potential of my hand guiding a log against a blindly located wedge either. This video shows a guy hustling to split as much as possible. Certainly can sell a splitter that way, but can also get a heck of an injury. To each his own, I would not change my choice if I could.
wellbuilt home said:With my 2 sons we can cut 2 cord a hour with out pushing .
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