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Fireplace university project

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by soz_fecs, Jan 12, 2006.

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  1. soz_fecs

    soz_fecs New Member

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    Hey, I was hoping some people would be kind enought to help me with my final year project. Im working with a fireplace manufacturer and trying to come up with new designs. Therefore I need to find out what the customers want, I have put together a questionnaire to help me find this out. If you have a spare 2mins could you answer it?

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  2. Mo Heat

    Mo Heat Mod Emeritus

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    Hmmm... Call me paranoid, but could this be our very first socially engineered, email harvesting troll?

    First post. Sympathetic cause. Student inference. Request for private information.

    Has all the hallmarks. I'm not giving out my email address and you (reader) might want to get a bit more info before you do.

    Why can't you (soz_fecs) post the survey? Just copy and paste it into a post. I do it all the time from MS Word.

    Mo Heat

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  3. soz_fecs

    soz_fecs New Member

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    What is an email harvesting troll? Its too big to attach and has pictures and text boxes in it so i cannot copy it into the post. any other ideas?
  4. Mo Heat

    Mo Heat Mod Emeritus

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    There are companies and individuals that do nothing but gather email addresses. Some use software 'bots', some do what is called social engineering. This is when you ask for something under a guise less than truthful. Like a Trojan request. A troll is someone who only appears on a site for personal or selfish motives, usually inflammatory, but perhaps inquisitory. Think of it as a manual method of phishing. Clear?

    How big can it be if I can answer it in 2 minutes?

    Can you strip the photos out and just paste the text? Should be simple enough. After all, you want feedback. You don't care about impressing the reader with the layout. If pictures are essential, you may be able to paste them in subsequent posts.

    If this isn't feasible, maybe some brave sole here will request a copy via the email facility built into this forum software. That way, you can send them the copy without their private email being revealed, only yours will be revealed to them. Unfortunately, if they respond back to you via the same built-in email facility, their private email address with be included with their response to you.

    Some people are reluctant to share their private email addresses, especially with first time posters on forums due to the potential for spam, mischief, etc. I am one of those types.

    Sorry I couldn't be more helpful if you are legit. Perhaps someone else has an idea they will share.

    BTW: What do you mean by 'an final year project' and who is the fireplace company you refer to?
  5. joshuaviktor

    joshuaviktor New Member

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    Post it on a web page. Post the link here. Requirement: Web page must be .edu, or a publicly available free server, like geocities, or angelfire.
    We can visit the page, put answers here in the forum, and you can collect them.

    Just a thought.

    Be happy to post it on a page for you.

    Just email it to me.
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    Set up a web page to do this, that will cut out the need for email addys.

    I want a fire pit in the middle on my house open on all sides. I only want to smell the faint aroma of jasmine and I don't want to have to clean up ash or poping cinders............... I want it to burn 24 hrs before it is reloaded...well you asked and thats what I want
  7. wg_bent

    wg_bent Minister of Fire

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    I want a masonry soapstone heater that cost as little as my Osburn and has an efficiency of 90%.

    I want it to be able to burn wood, pellets, or coal at my descression, and it should be portable so if I move, it goes with me.

    Actually, the closest thing to this might be:

    SCAN DSA 4 KOJO

    Just need it to cost 1500 bucks.
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    That is one sweet lookin burner.
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    I worked on a house in Oregon back in the 70's
    it overlooked the Willamette River Valley , the 10' fire pit hung from 40 ' chains in a tower the hole in the roof was about 3' across and was covered by a copper top vent. The tower was mostly glass. The stone work was mostly black lava rock from eastern Oregon.
    The house was a wedding present to a KC Royals pitcher from his famous father in law.
    I do not know how that pit worked as I didn't make any of the guest list at those parties. :)
  10. Mo Heat

    Mo Heat Mod Emeritus

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    I received this as a PM from soz_fecs a few minutes ago:

    < clip >
    I managed to set up a rubbish webpage to put my questionnaire in. sorry new at this stuff: http://us.share.geocities.com/soz_fecs/Questionnaire.doc
    < end clip >

    This link doesn't work for me. Anybody else want to try?

    Mo Heat
  11. Mo Heat

    Mo Heat Mod Emeritus

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    If you like that one, have you seen these?

    http://tinyurl.com/8loy7

    Mo Heat
  12. Willhound

    Willhound Feeling the Heat

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    Nope. - .doc as a web address ?
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    Didn't notice that. Thanks. Got to be careful with .doc, that's MS Word doc and they can harbor executables, etc.

    So, lets, see...

    No answers to my questions.
    PM message instead of another post.
    .doc as a web site address.

    I'm not getting any less suspicious, but then again, I'm paranoid by nature.

    At least soz_fecs has more than one post now. :)
  14. Willhound

    Willhound Feeling the Heat

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    I just assumed that maybe he did a quick and dirty web page using Word, but forgot to save it as html. I think he mentioned in his previous post that he had the survey as a Word document.
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    Weeeeellllllllll im lost now. made a website but dunno how to upload my questionnaire to it. - Oh im a she by the way :-/ thanks anyway. j
  16. Willhound

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    Sorry soz_fecs, my bad for assuming a "he".
    I took a look at the geocities upload help page at: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/geo/upload/upload-04.html
    and noticed this line: "To avoid errors, we suggest that you try not to upload files larger than 2MB."
    You mentioned in a previous post that there are pictures and illustrations in your file, these could easily put your file size above 2 megs ?
    If this is the case, you could either remove the pictures, or if they are integral to the survey, reduce the resolution to make them smaller. Alternatively, try saving the document as html in Word before uploading, it may help. Word doesn't always do a clean conversion though, so sometimes, columns, checkboxes, pictures etc. get shoved around a bit, but not always. You can also try converting to a PDF file with Acrobat Writer. These usually upload really well. If you are already aware of all this or have already tried these things, sorry, just trying to help.

    Please also be aware that if we seem a little suspicious it is only because a lot of us have been approached or hit with various web scams in the past, and lately, some of the schemes to try and collect personal information have been downright devious, so it's always best to err on the side of caution. That's why the nicknames, and not real names. This helps protect us, but unfortunately also hides the indentity of someone like you looking for help which makes it harder to decide if it's OK or not. Do not take this personally. You just can't be too careful these days.

    The only other advice I can offer is that if your survey requests any personal information, i.e. actual names and addresses, e-mail's etc., there are many people that will likely decline to provide that info. That being said, I realize that you may have to be able to qualify your sources to validate them for your Prof. , so you may have to give some thought on how to accomplish this.

    Willhound
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