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  1. coaly Fisher Moderator

    joined: Dec 22, 2007
    1,028 posts
    NE PA
    Welcome to the forum,
    No flat top doors were nickel or brass plated. They were painted black ONLY. Stove Bright Satin Black is closest to original. Many highlight trees with silver or white paint. That was not original.

    If you have a hammer drill that can switch from rotate only, or hammer and rotate (masonry drilling) or hammer only, a chisle in it in the hammer only position breaks them right up. An air chisle works good too, but the air exhaust blows dust around so much you need a resperator and eye shield. (should be used with electric hammer drill as well) Otherwise a hammer and chisle isn't bad on a double door stove. Hold the chisle with vice grips or a chisle holder. The deep Mama and Papa is much more difficult. Ear plugs are nice since you will be close to the door hole you're working through. Once one gives up, it gets easier. Draw a diagram of how they are installed. Rear first, then sides, then bottom. Ace Hardware is the cheapest I've found by the box. They are easily cut with masonry blade in circular saw, dry. Score and snap. They cut clean.
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  2. Fort Wisers New Member

    joined: Dec 27, 2012
    8 posts
    Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada
    Well we had our plans set to pick up a papa bear but found this gem close to home (grandpa bear).
    It has some surface rust on the ash fender, and some of the bricks are cracked but all in all it's in good shape.
    It got dirty and soaked on the way home, so I gave it a quick clean and had a small fire, with it's rear hanging half out of the garage, to dry it off.

    It has a baffle plate already in place.....
    It came with the fireplace mesh front (don't plan on using that much), four bear paw feet (not sure if that's proper for a grandpa of this generation? but my wife likes them, and that counts for something;)) and the guy even insisted I take his antique poker/shovel/broom set.
    $250.....thought that was an ok deal.
    I'll be happy to push the jotul F118CB out the back door of the cabin and put this old beast to work!

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  3. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,965 posts
    southern Indiana
    That sounds like a good deal. Just curious, why do you hate the 118 so much?
  4. Fort Wisers New Member

    joined: Dec 27, 2012
    8 posts
    Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada
    Apparently the original 118 was a great stove...the new EPA version has such a tiny firebox that we either get 2 hour max burn time with some real heat output or we have to choke it down so much, to try and get some burn times out of it, that it throws no real heat.
    Looks great, but it's all for show......
  5. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,965 posts
    southern Indiana
    The old 118 was great, I'm surprised it doesn't do better. I'm running my Fisher Grandma right now. It's heating great! Your Grandpa should run you out of your cabin.

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  6. Fort Wisers New Member

    joined: Dec 27, 2012
    8 posts
    Oxford Mills, Ontario, Canada
    Yeah it seems the F118CB isn't like the original! After having a disappointing weekend installing the stove and then being semi-chilled through that night, we came home and did some research.
    It seems there are more people unhappy with the new Black Bear than there are fans.....wish I would have read the reviews BEFORE buying that stove, oh well, live and learn.

    Anyhow, I'm highjacking the thread now!

    Nice looking Grandma:)
    I'd rather be roasted out of the cabin then huddled around a stove wanting more heat;)
  7. chadb New Member

    joined: Jan 19, 2013
    1 posts
    Interesting thread. I bought an old house about 7 years ago that came with a fisher. I've tried to replace it with a newer stove twice now and it quickly gets put back where it belongs. I heat the entire house with it (2,000 sq ft.). It looks like I have one of the Virginia made stoves. I have the doors under the top hinges with the bent handles. The width of the stove at the top plate is 27 3/4. I will be making a new baffle soon. I'm also considering adding secondary burn tubes. I'd much rather improve this old stove than get a new one. "They don't make them like they used to" definitely applies to steel stoves. The fisher puts out more heat than anything else I've used. I just wish it used less wood and had fewer ashes left over to shovel out every day.
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  8. theherbman New Member

    joined: Feb 10, 2013
    3 posts
    Hi I am new to this forum.
    I live in France and converted my Grandma Bear so that it heats water for rads. This was done back in 1993 and has worked well since then. The boiler is angled so that it forms a baffle but not as much as the baffle was and it does not touch the sides and leaves a gap of around 3ins on both sides, otherwise the boiler would not go in. The question is would it be a good idea to fill in this gap either with steel or firebricks. I am in the process of changing a few bricks that is why there are none in the photo.

    Regards Mel
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  9. coaly Fisher Moderator

    joined: Dec 22, 2007
    1,028 posts
    NE PA
    Welcome to the forum; Yes, I would close it off on the sides. The deposits on the boiler should protect it from galvanic corrosion if dissimilar metal should contact it if the deposits are as heavy on the top as the bottom. Lime in firebrick would not be good for contact with copper.
  10. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,965 posts
    southern Indiana
    France? Wow! Is it that common for Fisher stoves to make it overseas? That's pretty amazing.
  11. coaly Fisher Moderator

    joined: Dec 22, 2007
    1,028 posts
    NE PA
  12. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    1,965 posts
    southern Indiana
    Wow! Thanks, I had no idea they were, or still are made elsewhere. Cool!
  13. theherbman New Member

    joined: Feb 10, 2013
    3 posts
    Thanks for that bit of info Coaly. One more bit I now need. I cannot find the old baffle I took out strange because I have the old fire bricks and as a rule never throw anything out. I may have used it to weld up some holes on the Land-rover. I cannot remember the depth of the thing. That is from front to back. I remember there being cut outs on the front corners but not the size of them and that it is 23 in wide and around 1/4 in thick. I ask this as I have to remove the boiler for a while as I am changing the heating pipes. Not really a winter job but needs must. I will use thick stainless steel for the boiler side extensions. Thanks again.

    Regards Mel
  14. theherbman New Member

    joined: Feb 10, 2013
    3 posts
    Hi
    I have trolled through the posts and Coaly has already answered my questions. New baffle made in place and fire working the farmhouse is now nice and warm. In all it took longer to go and buy some new bricks than do the job. I had forgotten how much heat the grandma bear gives out as a lot of the heat went on heating the water for the rads.

    Regards Mel.

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