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  1. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    I got the fire going with kindling and properly seasoned wood(split and stacked over a year ago). As soon as I close and latch the door the flames go out. If I close the side door and don't latch it the fire burns fine. After doing a little research it seems there could be a few things happening.

    1.) Too mild outside to create a proper draft.
    2.) I need an OAK.
    3.) Damaged baffle

    Does anyone have any other possible explanations for the poor fire performance?

    There also seems to be an excessive amount of ash.
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  2. A1Stoves.com Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 19, 2011
    398 posts
    Northern CA
  3. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    It's brand new. Is it possible it came clogged from the factory? How do I check if it is clogged or not?
  4. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    22,174 posts
    Northern Virginia
  5. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    How tall is your chimney?
  6. A1Stoves.com Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 19, 2011
    398 posts
    Northern CA
    unlikely it came clogged, check thru some of the threads BB linked....

    (also, what does your dealer say? they should be your #1 resource for help operating your new stove :) )
  7. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    16 feet to the roof and 3 feet above.
  8. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,500 posts
    Michigan
    Is your wood by any chance oak?
  9. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Does not sound like draft problem then.

    What kind of wood do you have if it is oak one year stacked will not burn good at all. Oak needs at least 2 years to be ready to go into the stove 3 years is better.
  10. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    1.) where are you located?
    2.) Open a nearby window to see if this improves anything.
    3.) The damaged baffle would be obvious to see, so that would be easy to rule out.

    4.) As others have said, what type of wood are you burning?
    5.) If the wood is the issue, you will need to leave the side door open much longer to burn in the fire so you can close the door and have temps rise. It is possible to burn wet wood, it just sucks to do it and wastes a lot of wood.
  11. Oldhippie Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 18, 2011
    375 posts
    North Central Mass
    Sounds to me like a draft issue due to a fairly short chimney and a not so cold temp outside, combined with not getting that stove going hot (a solid burn) enough before closing it down? Just my guess.
  12. Poult Member

    joined: Jan 12, 2008
    109 posts
    Northern NYS
    I had one heck of a time trying to get a fire going the other day. Finally decided that while I was cold in the house, that it was warm enough outside to make the draft poor. And I've got a very short chimney (single story Ranch style house).
  13. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    22,174 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Several factors at work. Huge new soapstone stove that needs a bunch of moisture cooked out of the stones. No ash bed yet and weather and other stuff. Had the same problem with my first burn of the season last night. Took forever to cook the summer moisture out of the bricks, not to mention the three new ones, and get a good draft going. And it is a steel stove that has been cranking every year for six years. But the first burn in a cleaned out or brand new stove is a pain in the butt.

    Just leave the side door cracked until you can close it and the smoke is drawn up the pipe. Not filling the firebox. It can take a while.
  14. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    Thank you everyone for the feedback. I live in Colorado at an elevation of 6500 ft. Current temp around 45 degrees.

    I was trying to use oak and was hopeful that was the problem.

    I started a fire this afternoon from the top down with pine (split and stacked a year ago). Got the stove temp over 500 degrees. As soon as I shut the door completely, the flames leave the logs and go to the baffle for 5 min or so and then nothing. Just smoke. Before doing this I even opened 4 doors to the house.
  15. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,797 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    Are you running your air controls correctly? Sounds like you have something not open or opening!
  16. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Sounds like your primary air is not open.
  17. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    Primary air? The only air control I know about is the wooden knob on the bottom left.
  18. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    I would think that controls your air supply to the fire.
  19. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,797 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    That's the control, just read the manual on line, lower left, all the way "LEFT" is full open. Maybe the rod is not moving a plate or what ever it's hook to. Can you visually see an airway opening and being closed?
  20. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    Yeah, it's open.
  21. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    This is from the manuol.

    PRIMARY AIR CONTROL: (This becomes hot during operation. It is best to operate the primary air system with a fireplace glove.) The primary air control handle is located on the front lower left of the stove, just under the left edge of the ash lip. The primary air control allows you to regulate the amount of air entering the firebox. Generally, the more air allowed into the firebox, the faster the rate of burn; conversely, less air creates a slower burn. For maximum air flow, move the primary air handle as far left as possible; move the primary air control handle as far to the right as possible for minimum air flow (does not close completely).
  22. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    There is nothing to visually see. According to the manual, I have it open.
  23. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,797 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    Did you do your break in fires? Maybe a draft issue. Maybe you need a bigger fire, that stone is just sucking the heat up? What was up to 500 your stove or stove pipe?
  24. charly Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 2, 2008
    1,797 posts
    Schoharie, NY
    How did you ever do a break in fire if the stove won't stay going?
  25. Brian Schaefer New Member

    joined: Oct 13, 2012
    11 posts
    Did 2 break in fires. 500 on the stove pipe 18 inches up from the stove.

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