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Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by thundar, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Huntindog1

    Huntindog1 Minister of Fire

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    I used to heat with a wood furnace for 14 years which are not very efficient.

    When I got my new free standing EPA high efficiency stove I realized I could heat my entire house just as good with around 1/3 to 1/2 as much wood as the wood furnace was eating.

    I took the furnace and duct work out of the basement to open up the basement and built a family room. I sent the old energy king wood furnace to the metal recycle company where they gave me $60 for it. I should have sold it on craigslist but oh well......

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  2. Woody Stover

    Woody Stover Minister of Fire

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    In the original post it sounds like he's putting the stove upstairs, and wants to use the furnace blower to move heat to the basement (doesn't say if this is a frequently-used living area.) I've read here that moving heat through ducting isn't too efficient, correct? Is there a better way to move heat downstairs if he needs it there? Is he going to need a stove that's more convective or would a radiant type work OK?
    Any particular reason you've ruled out the cat stoves? Either stove would burn clean if burned correctly, but the non-cat might require that you burn shorter, hotter fires on warm days, thus more re-starts/re-loads. A cat can idle at low output and still burn clean. Fv is a cat, and radiant in nature, but l think it might fit. You need 8" from the front edge of the box to a combustible surface. Center line of the rear-exit flue is 22.75" so it might just clear if you have 25.75". Before deciding on a stove, I would want to decide if heating the basement was a top priority, and if so, how I was going to move heat there.
  3. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    As an Encore owner, I need to repeat myself; The cat system on the Fireview is better and more controllable than on the Encore.
  4. jharkin

    jharkin Minister of Fire

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    I will enthusiastically second this opinion. If you are looking at Encore and Fireview there is no contest. Fireview.

    Understand that with the 2in1 running with the cat out will still involve the extra step of operating the bypass and will not give the flame show of a non cat... The action is still hidden in the rear burn chamber. And your efficiency will be lower. Honestly I see no advantage to running that stove in non cat mode.
  5. Highbeam

    Highbeam Minister of Fire

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    Since you are burning an old wood furnace, you might be more familiar with the old VC stoves which for decades were excellent heaters. They have long been knocked off of that throne and stomped on. The VC name is now a brand of shame famous for glowing backs, crumbled sheetrock type stuff inside the stove, poor burning, wood wasting, running away, etc. VC of today is NOT VC of the 80s.
  6. thundar

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    Surprisingly, when I have used my heatilator fireplace and ran the furnace circulation fan, it did keep the downstairs somewhat comfortable.
    I am considering the Fireview. But how will a cat stove perform when it is really cold? If this works out good, I might use this stove when it is a little colder too. Not very many have commented on the reliability and efficiency of the Jotul stoves. When it gets colder will the Heritage or Jotul C400 outperform the Fireview?
    I'm not sure I'm ready to throw out my wood furnace just yet until I know how well my furnace blower will move air from the wood stove downstairs. I know hot air rises, but if the system is moving warmer air from a wood stove, it just might work since my basement is pretty tight.
    Either way, thanks for the thoughts - it has really helped to hear from people who have had some experience with the stoves already.
  7. Trilifter7

    Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

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    From everything I've read so far the new design of the 2-in-1 or flexburn VC stoves are getting much better reviews. They have only been out for a little over two years now so there's not a lot to go by yet but I would not rule it out.
    From what I understand of the stove the purpose of running it in non CAT mode is for during shoulder season when your draft is very weak due to the small change in inside-to-outside temp. The CAT acts as a restricter slowing the burn down so taking it out during shoulder season allows you to keep a better draft for burning. I haven't been able to see this first hand yet but it makes sense to me.
  8. thundar

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    One thing I don't like about the Fireview....only 16" log length. 99% of my current wood stock (over 8-9 cords) is 18" or longer.
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    I believe you can fit 18" splits in the stove. Get a Fireview owner to confirm, though.
  10. rijim

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    The reliability of the Jotul stoves is excellent, efficiency is consistent with many EPA secondary tube stoves. To burn clean it needs dry wood and be run above 450 during the off gassing stage, if temps 450-600 won't make the room it is located in uncomfortable it is a great stove.
  11. thundar

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    Anybody know if the Fireview will hold 18" splits?
  12. thundar

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    So anyone know if the Fireview will take 18" splits?
  13. fox9988

    fox9988 Minister of Fire

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    Woodstock's website says 20" firebox, 16" recommended log length. I just dug up an old thread and the firebox was measured at 19.5" in the bottom, 21" at 2" above the bottom.
    Edit: But the corners are angled.
  14. thundar

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    Good info...I saw that 16" recommendation, but never would have known about the other measurements. Thanks.
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    My 2.3 ft3 insert is in a Heatilator A36R.

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