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  1. freddypd

    freddypd Burning Hunk

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    Can anyone tell me how to clean the gunk that formed on the metal box by door frame? I am able to clean the glass and think I can handle the chimney (haven't done that yet) but am not sure about the box itself. Wouldn't a paint scraper really mess up the finish? Even with a hot fire the gunk seems to be caked on.

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  2. freddypd

    freddypd Burning Hunk

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    This is what burning not so dry wood will get you I guess. Hopefully next years supply will be drier.
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  3. rideau

    rideau Minister of Fire

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    I'd sweep my chimney right now.

    That gunk is creosote, and you are at high risk for having a lot of creosote in your chimney, a much bigger problem than what is on your firebox walls.

    Once the chimney is cleaned, and you are relatively certain you have mitigated any creosote problem there, then address the firebox sides. Burning a few hot fires with a creosote cleaner may help a lot, but I'd want to know the state of my chimney now.

    Check the chimney, post some pictures of it....let's be sure it is safe from a creosote point of view. You can easily take the stove pipe apart and clean from below if getting on the roof is a problem. Use binoculars to check your stove cap, if you do clean from below.
  4. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    For sure get that chimney cleaned as it is probably in the same condition. Wire brushes work nicely inside of stoves the same as wire brushes work in chimneys.

    I'd also be checking to see if the seal is not tight as an air leak can cause this.

    And yes, the number one culprit is the fuel you burn. Let that be a good lesson. Many have learned this lesson the hard way and that is one of the big reasons I always recommend people be 3 years ahead on their wood supply. Until one starts burning good fuel, he will have poor results. Would you burn poor fuel in your car or truck? Also one much realize that some types of wood can take up to 3 years to dry properly.
  5. dave_376

    dave_376 Burning Hunk

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    SWEEP YOUR CHIMNEY, get some good dry wood maybe eco bricks and burn hot with some creosote remover.
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  6. jdp1152

    jdp1152 Minister of Fire

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    Do you even see secondary combustion with that kind of gunk building up? I'd go buy some cheap pine 2x4s and chop up. Mix a few small chunks up and mix in with your marginal wood. I have the same unit and have pushed a little over a cord through it since January and haven't even flirted with what you're looking at there.
  7. wingsfan

    wingsfan Feeling the Heat

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    Wire brush in masonary chimney only. Nylon brush in stainless. Wire will scratch stainless and that is not good for it.
  8. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    I'm interested to know if the chimney is really bad, or if the cat is able to clean it up. The firebox of my stove gets seriously gunked up, but nothing in the pipe.
  9. nate379

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    My stove looks just like that as well and I burn wood that is very dry. Use a putty knife to knock down the worst of it and don't worry about the rest. It's a stove, it's not supposed to be spotless.

    My chimney stays clean, I get maybe a cup of junk out of it with a year of burning.

  10. nate379

    nate379 Guest

    No that's not correct.

    Plastic brush for a liner (easy to rip with a metal brush) for stainless you use a steel brush. What's it matter if you scratch it?

  11. thewoodlands

    thewoodlands Minister of Fire

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    That is not normal, if your wood is seasoned....your burning at the right temps... that chit should never be in your stove or pipe.
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  12. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    Wings, we do use nylon brush in chimney. Wire brush in the stove.
  13. jeff_t

    jeff_t Minister of Fire

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    This is mostly true, but it is quite normal in my stove. In his hybrid fireplace, probably not. It would be interesting to see how the cat has done, if it was hot enough to burn smoke.
  14. wingsfan

    wingsfan Feeling the Heat

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    Just saying.
  15. freddypd

    freddypd Burning Hunk

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    Just ordered a sooteater chimney cleaner and a tub of rutlands creosote remover.

    This is my first year burning wood. I ordered "seasoned" wood, but you know how that goes. I should have just about enough for next year soon. Hopefully it will be much drier.

    I will give a full report on how the cleaning goes. Thank you for the responses.
  16. Bster13

    Bster13 Minister of Fire

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    Any update here?
  17. Ram 1500 with an axe...

    Ram 1500 with an axe... Minister of Fire

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    How long has t been since you cleaned that glass
  18. freddypd

    freddypd Burning Hunk

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    I have a chimney sweep coming May 11th. We haven;t used the stove in a couple of weeks now. The glass gets like this usually after a nights burn down. It does clean pretty easily with a hot fire and a razor.
  19. A1Stoves.com

    A1Stoves.com Minister of Fire

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    i suspect leaky door gasket
  20. dyerkutn

    dyerkutn Feeling the Heat

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    I am not as experienced as these other guys but I have had the same experience--lots of buildup in the box (probably bad wood) but very little in the pipe each year. That was a very old cat stove
  21. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    I really doubt it. If you have to use a razor to remove it, it could only be one of two things. It's either from unseasoned wood, or it's a Blaze King.:p

    My glass will get a little dirty on low burn, but it always wipes off with a damp rag.
  22. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    SS flues are not to have Steel brushes used in them. Not only is it not necessary, it scratches the flue walls and causes corrosion of the SS.
  23. Ram 1500 with an axe...

    Ram 1500 with an axe... Minister of Fire

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    Something is wrong if you need a razor to clean the glass, is should come 80% clean with a wet paper towel, the rest comes off with newspapers little ash and water. If not you need to figure out what is going on
  24. nate379

    nate379 Guest

    I asked about this on here a few years ago and everyone said wire brush was fine. Also the pro chimney sweep and the stove shop both told me the same thing.

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