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Ignitor replacement

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by angus_guy, Sep 17, 2010.

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  1. Frogwood

    Frogwood New Member

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    My ignitor crapped out on my Enviro Windsor. Dealer quoting "about" $150. Need to get this much cheaper or just live with manual ignite for a while. I have not pulled it out of the stove yet and do not have measurements.
    Can anyone assist by looking at the replacement unit shown here: http://www.stove-parts-unlimited.com/Enviro_and_Vistaflame_400W_Ignitor_115V_p/50-619.htm

    Thanks and stay warm!

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  2. fortisi876

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    OK, so my second igniter has crapped out on my in the 7-8yrs I've owned this stove. The last one being one of those "super igniter's" .....pfffttt, not even 3 seasons of use. Anywho, I ordered one of those heat cartridge from Grainger but as mentioned before they don't come with a threaded male nipple on it so my question is, would it be a tremendous fire hazard to just have it sitting in that well, not screwed in? At least temporarily til I find a nipple that'll work.
  3. oldbrownhat

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    I see this is now a bit of an old thread, but I thought I'd add an update with some good news. The igniter on my Enviro EF-5 died recently and I thought, "No way these are worth $150!" So, after some online research I discovered the following:

    They are a bog-standard item in other industries, esp. plastics vacuum-moulding. They are more properly called "cartridge heaters" and are available from a number of mfrs. in a very wide range of sizes, voltages and configurations. In the end I got the MANUFACTURER'S part # (not Enviro's) right off the heater in my stove. It is manufactured by Ogden/Chromalox. It was pretty hard to read but for anyone else with an Enviro EF-5, the Chromalox part # is MXEJØ4A3293. I contacted Ogden/Chromalox to get their e-mail address and to my amazement a real person answered the phone (!!!!!!). She told me that they don't sell direct, but to contact one of their distributors and confirmed that the part # was a special order.

    I contacted Heatcon in Seattle, they told me "No problem; 15 days to manufacture + shipping." My cost, $63.48 each, plus shipping (direct-shipped from Chromalox.) I ordered two. Unfortunately they only wanted to use FedEx, so the shipping was $17.00 but still, a WAY cheaper than "retail." All I have to do is add the 1/4" spade connectors. (Ogden/Chromalox have Canadian distributors as well but I figured it might be cheaper to buy in the US and since my gf lives in Bellingham and we have a US VISA, this is not a problem.)

    The exact description from Heaton'c invoice reads:

    "MXEJ04A3293, Cartridge heater, 120V 400W, 1/2" Diameter, 4" length
    12" fiberglass leads, flange mount $63.48 ea.

    I can only imagine what Sherwood (Enviro) pays for them in lots of 500 or more.

    So if you have a pellet stove, pull the heater cartridge out now, brush off the carbon and get the manufacturer's part number before it is too hard to read. (On mine it was etched on the barrel.) As I recall, that heater may also fit one of the Vistafire stoves, and it may also fit other Enviro models. (Check Enviro's part number for the EF-5 against that for their other products.)

    :) Stuart
  4. stoveguy2esw

    stoveguy2esw Minister of Fire

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    does the stat have a "swing" adjustment? this allows you to set the amount of degrees the stat allows the room to cool before restarting the stove. many are "zero swing" and can cause fast cycling as the room starts cooling while stove is shutting down only to start it right back up. this can cause undue wear and tear on the igniter
  5. Don2222

    Don2222 Minister of Fire

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    Hi Scott
    I just replaced a St. Croix Hastings ignitor. It is 4 inches long and 300 watts and 3/8 inch in diameter. The hastings has a special collar on it that steps down. Some of the collars are welded on and cannot be re-used. If the collar is welded, then the Grainger ignitor collar made by Dayton Electric MFG Co. part # 1L634A, then the step down can be done with 2 washers which can be purchased at Advanced Auto parts.They are Brake Hose washers part # 66223. If you get the heater cartridge at Grainger then you need to extend the wires by splicing on the wires from the old igniter. The only problem is the the quick disconnect male clips must be crimped on after the igniter wires are pulled thru the channel to the back of the stove. The easiest way to do that is to stick a coat hanger thru to the front and then pull the wires back thru the hole in the back of the stove with the rubber grommet. I tried to remove the grommet but it was old and a little brittle so pulling the wires back thru with the coat hanger works best. That was just my experience.

    See pic of orig igniter below and new one I built up.

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