Thanks for commenting btuser. I like what you're saying! I guess when I titled this thread I wasn't thinking how corny it sounds to say "do it you'll save the world!" But, wouldn't it be nice if we as a people decided to take control of our country and do the right thing for our selves and each other? It was a bit of a cheerleader statement, somewhat idealist and a little unrealistic. I too like to save money. In fact my family's immediate survival depends on frugality. We have not been able to boycot walmart and my wife has gone to mcdonalds since I started this thread. Last night we bought all our groceries at the walmart supercenter in the neighboring town. Am I proud of not going to the local farm to buy my meats? No! I had a three day pay check this week and had to keep the cost low! Last night we got out spending $260 for a week's worth of groceries. Next week we plan to visit a local farm and try buying meats that are locally raised and processed. We also have local produce shops where we plan to shop. We will have to compare cost and see how it will all work. There's got to be a balance somehow! On another money saving topic, we saved over $1500 on heating costs and only used 50 gallons of oil since November. That includes water heating. My wood is free so I think I'd still burn some wood! So, I wonder how much of the meats on the shelves are from the small farmers you mentioned? I think this is where we would come in as consumers and buy the locally grown and processed foods and change the market. Our demand would be for the local farmers and not the huge company producing the major % of our food supply! The big companies would have to change their focus from mass production to high quality because that is what the people want! I hope you're right! It's shocking how fast our world has changed from local to mass production. I sure hope there's still time to make a change. This is why I'm idealistic.