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Isle Royale Door Glass Slipping.....

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Nonprophet, Jan 21, 2013.

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  1. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    this is the material that i used.this material presses against the tubes. what youre looking at is the stuff that controls the secondary air that comes into you stove. 2013-01-23_14-45-17_411.jpg
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  2. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    jags you helped me way back when. you helped me crawl now im running. im glad i got a stove that needed repair cause i know all the workings of our stove . i dug deep into the workings of it. it was 1 degree last night my house was 86 lol
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  3. Nonprophet Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2009
    517 posts
    Oregon
    What was the issue with the flat gasket material--why didn't it work? Do you know how much they want for the secondary air control gasket?
    Nonprophet, Jan 23, 2013
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  4. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    I will look again when I get home, but I don't believe that my stove ever had those pads. Of course, mine dates back to before the current Quad owners. Did they make any changes? Dunno.
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
    #29

  5. Johnpolk New Member

    joined: Sep 15, 2012
    56 posts
    My isle royale seems to have the pieces of felt between the tabs and the glass. Manufactured 6/12
    Johnpolk, Jan 23, 2013
    #30

  6. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    I remember. Nonpro and I have had some similar talks when he was considering the stove.

    Nonpro - I am betting with the newly tightened screws you will be just fine. (but I am still gonna look for any signs of those pads.)
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
    #31

  7. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Mine was installed in 2002. Predates yours by a bit.;lol
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
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  8. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    the issue was the person before me used to pull the handle too hard to close it and cut the gasket so there wasnt a perfect seal to stop the secondary air from coming into the firebox.

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    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  9. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    jags mine s 2003
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  10. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Chrism - did you just use that nifty new addition of the "my Attachments"?
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
    #35

  11. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Hmmm...gonna need to check mine. Ain't gonna do anything about it, no matter what the outcome is. Don't fix what ain't broken.
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
    #36

  12. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    left side faces into stove Screenshot_2013-01-23-15-14-13.png
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  13. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Chrism - just to clarify - you mean the start up air, not the secondary air, correct? The secondary would be the air going to the reburn tubes.
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
    #38

  14. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    yes jags used it but so much easier to post a pic when u use a tablet instead of a desktop
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  15. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    yes im sorry my mistake thinking too far ahead of myself ......yes start up air.
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  16. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Cool.
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
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  17. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    and no i dont remember the price it was only a couple of dollars it was cheap and they even threw the silicone and new screws
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  18. Nonprophet Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2009
    517 posts
    Oregon
    I've been on hold for 45 mins with Quadrafire customer service........
    Nonprophet, Jan 23, 2013
    #43

  19. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    go through your dealer let him be on hold. the num i have is 1-800-926-4356 always worked good for me .
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  20. Nonprophet Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2009
    517 posts
    Oregon
    Well, according to Quadrafire CS, the pads for the glass clips do not exist.......they also said they didn't have a part number for the startup air gasket that chrism is talking about......sigh.
    Nonprophet, Jan 23, 2013
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  21. granpajohn Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 13, 2007
    588 posts
    Central Maryland
    That gasket looks like a break-down waiting to happen. I wonder if my QF has similar setup. (The stove side is the same.)
    When new, it always felt difficult and strange to use the startup air. Hard to pull on, hard to push off. Then after a couple years, it just smoothed out and worked. Mine's an insert so would have to pull it out to get a look, and that aint happening unless absolutely necessary.

    (Sorry if I semi hijacked....carry on.)
    granpajohn, Jan 23, 2013
    #46

  22. Chrism Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 8, 2009
    294 posts
    Eastern PA
    its only a breakdown if you close it (pull it towards you) too hard
    Chrism, Jan 23, 2013
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  23. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    If the shut off for your start up air is not working correctly, it will be evident. You will get a jet roar from the stove.

    NonPro - hit up your dealer. There is literally a part number for every screw on that thing.

    Edit: looks like I need to eat my hat. The break down manual does not have a number for that. Still, hit up your dealer.
    Jags, Jan 23, 2013
    #48

  24. Nonprophet Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 27, 2009
    517 posts
    Oregon
    Local stove shop has "glass gasket" which is woven and about 1/2" wide.....Chrism is that what you had tried? Why didn't the flat gasket material work?
    Nonprophet, Jan 23, 2013
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  25. northwinds Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 9, 2006
    1,089 posts
    south central WI
    Great pics, Chrism. Interesting stuff too see it without taking my own stove apart.
    northwinds, Jan 23, 2013
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