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  1. davetapson New Member

    joined: Jun 15, 2012
    3 posts
    Benoni
    Hi there - this is my first post, my name is Dave, from a sunny, but not so warm, South Africa.

    I'm mighty glad that I came across this forum as wood stoves are a rarity here, particularly Jotuls, and any kind of sensible advice even rarer.

    I'm struggling with mine at the moment. The shaft that runs through the door seems to have clogged up with some gunk and the handle is hard to turn. I cannot turn it sufficiently to lock the door fully closed, so you can imagine this is a problem.

    I see that there is what looks like a hollow pin holding the handle to the shaft. What I'm suspecting is that I need to drill this out, pull the handle off the shaft, pull the shaft out the door, clean it all up and refit it all?

    Questions:
    1. any idea why it gunked up?
    2. what best do I use for a pin to replace the pin I drill out?
    3. do I lube the shaft with anything, or will that just burn and gunk it up again?

    Thanks
    Dave

    Edit: it got itself gunked up over summer - was working fine at the end of last winter...
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  2. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Welcome Dave. I don't have an F3 in front of me, but what you are describing sounds like a roll pin (aka spring pin, split pin) holding the handle to the shaft. If so, it can be punched out with a slightly smaller diameter nail or pin punch. Your hardware store should have a replacement pin on hand.

    As for what is seizing the handle shaft, my guess would be rust. Before disassembly you might try a penetrating lubricant or something like a few drops of automatic transmission fluid on the handle shaft and let it sit overnight. Then work back and forth it to see if it starts to turn more freely.
  3. Highbeam Minister of Fire

    The operating shaft for my door handle is fairly dainty as well and can get sticky with gunk. Lighter oils and lubes will free it up temporarily but I have found that 90 weight gear oil lasts much longer. Don't drill anything.

    If necessary, you should be able to lift the door off of its hinges and perform the lube operation with the door laying flat on a bench so that the operating shaft is vertical. This should make it easier for the lube to flow down the shaft into the joint.
  4. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,915 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Just pulled the door on my F3CB and took a look. The pin is into the handle on the outside and goes into the handle and shaft. Not a roll pin and the only access to it is from the one end. So getting it out would involve drilling it out and coming up with a replacement. I would suggest pulling the door, laying it face down and successive applications of penetrating oil rather than drilling the assembly apart.

    Which I see I now need to do myself since it is getting squeaky and sticking some too.
  5. davetapson New Member

    joined: Jun 15, 2012
    3 posts
    Benoni
    Yep, all the above is exactly right. I was going to post some pics but there's no point. Will take the door off and go mad with penetrating oil etc. Thanks for the help.
  6. davetapson New Member

    joined: Jun 15, 2012
    3 posts
    Benoni
    Just a catch up. I took the door off, laid it handle side up and dripped my favourite penetrating liquid (brake fluid - don't get any on to auto type paint!) onto the shaft so that it ran down to where the shaft runs through the door. This loosened it up, so I then followed this up the next day with a squirt of Q20 (light oil in an aerosol can - you guys might know it as WD40?), and then as per the suggestion above, 90 weight gear box oil.

    The gearbox oil did the trick. The other stuff did free the handle, but it was still hard to shift. The gearbox oil took it back how it was when it was new.

    Thanks for all your help.

    Regards
    Dave

    PS: the brake fluid did not seem to affect the paint on my stove.
  7. Highbeam Minister of Fire

    That gear oil will put off a light smell when you first get it hot. A bit like sulfur, cat urine, very temporary but I was about to kick something's butt when I first caught that smell. I still use it as needed for my pins.
  8. neumsky Combustion Analyzer

    joined: Dec 25, 2011
    567 posts
    Oklahoma City
    If I'm not mistaken...WD40 attracts dirt!

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