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Kickback

Post in 'The Gear' started by firecracker_77, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. firecracker_77

    firecracker_77 Minister of Fire

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    Just had a minor kickback. Nothing major, but it was sudden and set the chain brake before I knew what happened. My forearm set the brake. The nose was buried so it didn't pop up too far.

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  2. WellSeasoned

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    Wow... lucky. You use PPE right? Did you catch onto something with the nose of the bar? Glad wasn't a bad one
  3. Ram 1500 with an axe...

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    My echo 18 has a special tip on it to prevent things like this.... Maybe look into this
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    firecracker_77 Minister of Fire

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    I still don't know what happened. My PPE was ordered from Bailey's last week and should arrive Thursday. The nose was buried almost 2 feet. It popped up but couldn't have come all the way out.
  5. DexterDay

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    What type of bar and chain and on what saw?

    This matters a lot in what happened. Some. Gain and bars are better for bore cutting, and or having the entire bar buried.
  6. WellSeasoned

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    Definitely caught something in there. Good thing brake did what it's suppose to do. Could have been worse.
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    Glad it did what is is designed to do.

    When the tip is buried, always be ready for "kick back" , even with safety chain. ::P
  8. firecracker_77

    firecracker_77 Minister of Fire

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    It was the 441 with the yellow chain. I don't know if I hit another log next to it with the tip or what. My chaps and face shield are coming Thursday along with some Kevlar gloves. I'm done till I get that stuff on. No more of this silly stuff.
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    I was noodling a large diameter oak cookie about 10 inches thick. Cutting right down the center from the top to the bottom edge with the cookie sitting up vertically.
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    You ain't ever gonna know what happened, just be ready for it. And all of the PPE in the world won't protect your face. Be careful out there.

    Ten years ago a young man bucking logs behind a local high school to provide winter heat for poor folks had one kick back right in the middle of his face. He had been using a saw for years.

    I have had them miss the right side of my head by inches. Nothing on the other side of the log, not hitting anything. It grabs, it kicks.
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    Saw tip was buried. Holding saw down at a 45 degree angle. 25 inch bar and chain.
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    Is it possible that some sections of wood are knotty and provide a bit of extra resistance as your working your way through? I think from now on, I'm going to work on the back half of the bar as much as possible.
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    What happened to his face? Reconstructive surgery. :(
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    I can't picture ever making that cut like that. Buried in a log that size I am already on my knees with the bar angled up moving it toward level. Just me I guess.

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    Yep. And a school system sued to beat hell.
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    Should explain that just like a post here a day or two ago the cut I would have started leaning over it and cutting straight up on the other side and then pulling through after about a quarter had been cut on the other side. How I never end up with a bar in the middle of a uncut log. I cannot imagine ever having a 24" bar buried in a log.
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    I will have to think about what you mean. I started with the tip up to make the initial contact groove. Then I worked my way down, tip up on one side part of the time, level part of the time, and tip down on the other side part of the time. Was only 10" thick, but with the tip down, I was pulling back into the wood some on the opposite side which is how the nose was buried in the wood.
  18. Beer Belly

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    that would definitely get my attention. I keep buggin' the Wife to let me buy some PPE, and she just keeps sayin' " be careful"
  19. MasterMech

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    BB, that makes me cringe a bit. My wife is pretty tight with a buck but when I need safety equipment or the trucks need brakes etc. it's never an issue. I get what I need. I'm sure if she thinks it through a bit she will realize that a certain amount of safety gear isn't a luxury. She's gambling with your limbs and that ain't cool.
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    We all try to be as careful as we can while operating the saws. Sometimes bad stuff happens that is beyond our control.

    Let her know what a visit to the ER cost. Hopefully you don't miss work if something bad does happen.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...visit-costs-more-than-an-average-months-rent/
  21. MasterMech

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    This thread comes about as I just found out about a coworker of mine that had a pretty severe accident while using a saw. He is very, very, lucky to be able to keep the leg he cut open. Apparently he found some metal in the tree that caused the saw to kick out of the cut.
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    I drove for probably 1,000 plus miles with the front brakes metal to metal before she let me replace them (rotors too of course)...it was to the point where the metal from the rotors started leaving little specs of rust on the wheels.....once she rode in it and said "WTF is that noise ??", the brakes got done. I did have an incident where I fell off a ladder while cutting a tree limb with the chainsaw.....my first action was to toss the saw...she was upset, but that's just about it..."be careful"
  23. MasterMech

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    I see a heart to heart chat in your future. It's your checkbook too. ;)
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    Glad you weren't hurt for sure - I always make sure to keep my body to the outside of the plane of the cut when making similar cuts - if the saw lifts up, less chance of getting hit. Cheers!
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    Man up and buy the stuff. Sleep on the couch if need be. It sure as hell beats sleeping in a hospitial bed. A set of chaps and a helmet is less than a $100. Her decision making abilities are way off track. If you MUST get approval, maybe show her some pics of saw injuries and vids of how fast a kickback can occur, barberchairs, etc. I am not trying to be mean, but your health should matter more to her.
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