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Loading North South vs East West

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Malatu, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. Malatu

    Malatu New Member

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    I'm in the process of doing my research to purchase an insert. I've run across the terms that refer to loading wood north south and east west. Also, Ive read that an east west burns slower than north south.

    Is there a rule of thumb regarding what is more desirable? Or should a look for an insert that can accommodate both directions?

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  2. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    N/S loading is enjoyed be some because it eliminates the possibility of a split rolling and banging into the glass.

    In some stoves, E/W burns slower than N/S. But, in the end, it is personal preference. I have two stoves that are strictly east/west and one that can be run either way. It's fun to have options, but as long as your splits fit in the stove and the stove provides enough heat and a long enough burn for your needs, it really does not matter.
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  3. Malatu

    Malatu New Member

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    Is the visual effect better with e/w? Or doesn't that really matter either.
  4. Grisu

    Grisu Minister of Fire

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    I think N/S is also easier to load as you do not have to reach into the stove to put a piece in the back. The real visual effect with a EPA stove are the secondary flames which are coming down from the top. Those should be more determined by the baffle system than the way the wood is loaded. In any case, I have not heard anyone complaining here that their flame show was not awesome. ;)
  5. AnalogKid

    AnalogKid Member

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    How about a mix of NE/SW? :)
  6. realstihl

    realstihl Feeling the Heat

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    N/S seems to burn up quicker and seems to give a better light show. E/W is slower burn, more sluggish to get temps up. That's in mine anyway.
  7. KarlP

    KarlP Feeling the Heat

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    I agree with realstihl. That's why I try to load a cold stove N/S and reload a warm stove E/W...
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    James02 Feeling the Heat

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    Some peeps do put 2 n/s on the bottom just so there is a tunnel of air going to the back....
  9. velvetfoot

    velvetfoot Minister of Fire

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    It's really nice to have the choice. I appreciate it a lot now.
  10. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake Minister of Fire

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    I load southeast by northwest . . . once you do it this way you'll wonder why you ever tried it the other ways. ;)

    Actually, unless I cut up 6-10 inch pieces of wood I'm pretty much locked into going east to west with my woodstove.
  11. Huntindog1

    Huntindog1 Minister of Fire

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    I think most inserts only load East/West unless you cut your wood really short for that purpose.

    Its easier to find a free standing stove that loads either way with a 18" split.
  12. Malatu

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    I've noticed that too. The only insert I've run across that loads n/s is the Pacific Energy Alderlea T5, though I'm sure there are others (I've just started doing my research). Based on what I've seen out there, most inserts load e/w but could be loaded n/s only if your wood was cut to 12" +/-
  13. Grisu

    Grisu Minister of Fire

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    Since fireplaces are usually wider than deep it makes sense that inserts are E/W loaders. PE seems to be the exception there as the Super also loads N/S. It is a feature I really like. After two years of burning I still have no burn scars.
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    Lumber-Jack Minister of Fire

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    I've used stoves that can only be loaded East West and found it kind of restricting. It's nice to be able to load both ways. It generally means you'll have a bigger firebox too.
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    velvetfoot Minister of Fire

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    My insert will do 18" either way. I cut to 16". It is 2.3 ft3, so not that huge.
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  16. thewoodlands

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    Our stove (Lopi Liberty) can load both ways, we like N/S over E/W. The E/W will burn slower like they have said but loading N/S we have less of a chance of burning ourselves or a split rolling on the glass, we also like the way it burns when loaded N/S.
    Zap
  17. Mainely Saws

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    I have an E/W stove ( Hampton 300 ) & it can be a bit confining but I like to put a couple of the 8" wood bricks N/S & then put my firewood E/W on top of them . I get a good long burn for a 1.7 CF firebox & the view is nice ........
  18. ColdNH

    ColdNH Minister of Fire

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    I used to load my old stove N+S 90% of the time due to the fact that you never had to worry about logs rolling onto the glass or reach your had way into the fire. With the Oslo I find myself loading E/W 95% of the time due to the rectangular shape of the stove and the useless front door. I miss loading N/S because you have to be way more careful loading the stove to keep logs from rolling onto the glass.
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    The Hampton H300 E/W stove has removable andirons that are inside of the stove to prevent wood from rolling up against the glass . I'm sure other stoves have them as well ...........
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    I can do both in the 2000, I like the fact the logs dont roll out when loading N/S. If I gather the right sizes ill load three logs E/W and three logs on top of that N/S.
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    Jotul and Hearthstone do not have andirons. PE and most steel stoves do not have and irons. In fact, andirons are becoming quite the rarity. More stoves do not have them then stoves that do have them.

    VC and Woodstock does, but they are not removable for the most part. The Intrepid has easily removable Andirons.
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    I had to look up the specs on your H300 stove. Weird how they numbered the stove and insert the same but they're pretty different.
  23. Mainely Saws

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    yes , evidently the Hampton insert has a much larger firebox . I heat solely with wood these days & if I were to get another wood stove , I'd go with a larger firebox for longer overnight burns . Unfortunately my hearth isn't very deep so a number of larger stoves won't fit . I hear so many good things about the HD Englander NC30 that I'm going to get one at the end of the season & plan to use it in my poorly insulated camp with a cathedral ceiling ..........
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    I prefer n-s in my Buck. I'm limited to 16" splits that way though.
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    My Quadrafire 5100i will do either, but with N/S I can get a 22" log in. E/W I could probably only get 16"-18". I load N/S and I enjoy not reaching into the belly of the beast. ;)

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