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  1. Adios Pantalones Minister of Fire

    There's a toothpick in this log somewhere...
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  2. bayshorecs New Member

    joined: Sep 28, 2008
    214 posts
    Central Illinois
    Like the old Chip and Dale cartoons. Logging company takes a large tree, feeds it into a pencil sharpener like machine and grinds it down to produce 1 toothpick per tree.
  3. Bubbavh Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 22, 2008
    475 posts
    NJ Piney
    Another good use for my wood carvings... Heat!
    Now if I could only figure out a way to get my wife's pottery to burn!
  4. Girl New Member

    joined: Dec 18, 2007
    222 posts
    Mass
    When I get some pallets together, will do.
  5. jabush Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 23, 2006
    385 posts
    Howard County, MD
    My wife bought me one of these a couple years ago http://www.firewood-splitter.com/

    One of the better maual designs (imo), but not great for processing knotty or gnarly stuff. What it IS good for is making kindling! You can place the wedge right where you want it and keep your hands out of the way. I have a need for a lot of small stuff during the season so this thing comes in handy.
  6. CowboyAndy New Member

    joined: Feb 29, 2008
    744 posts
    Chateaugay, NY
    I have a 40 gal trash can filled with scraps from splitting, plus there is a massive downed pine behind where i work that i cut a few rounds off and split then pretty small with the hydraulic splitter for kindling...
  7. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,417 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
  8. andybaker Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 31, 2008
    347 posts
    Northwest OH
    I found a guy (customer) that has a pallet repair business. I go over there and he has a dumpster about 40' long and 8' tall filled with pieces of broken pallets. I take a trailer, climb up and throw a ton in and at home store stacked up in the garage. Since I have a bakery I just trade some donuts, believe me, donuts talk.
  9. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,417 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Wish you lived closer
  10. donatello Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2007
    68 posts
    Connecticut
    I don't NEED kindling. I think it's a hassle to deal with. The only time I use kindling is when it builds up and I want to get rid of it. Then I just throw a bunch of it in the stove to get some quick heat. I use SUPER CEDARS. One puck can be cut into 8 pieces bringing the cost to approx. 8 cents/each fire. Lay the piece of SUPER CEDAR on a split on the bottom of the stove and light it. Then load the stove with all your wood (regular sized,no kindling necessary),open throttle full. Set it and forget it (check it in 10-15 minutes to drop the throttle down). I used kindling when I first got my stove. I had to baby-sit and make sure it didn't go out. Not any more . . . .
  11. Cazimere Member

    joined: Oct 29, 2007
    224 posts
    Delmarva
    I use a pair of bbq tongs to hold the small stuff and split with hatchet : )
  12. andybaker Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 31, 2008
    347 posts
    Northwest OH
    Great idea donatello, where do you get these cedar blocks? That would be cheaper and easier, less time, than what I do. I've got to check that out.
  13. fossil Super Moderator

    joined: Sep 30, 2007
    9,147 posts
    Bend, Oregon
    http://www.supercedar.com/

    Send them an e-mail, and they'll give you a couple of free samples to try out. I use 'em and I love 'em. Rick
  14. fattyfat1 New Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2008
    104 posts
    SW WASHINGTON
    me and my neighbor went in on a truckload of reject cedar fence boards. 4' long by 6" wide by 3/4" thick. warped and cracked, but only 8$ to fill a fullsize truck. we used my chop saw to cut them to length, then i used my band saw to cut them with the grain into strips. we both spent a saturday making kindling, but i have enough to last 10 years!
  15. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    Damn, that's just plain outright cheating.

    I select straight grain knot-free pieces of Black Ash and split it into ever smaller "halves" sometimes along the rings, sometimes perpendicular to them. I use a 2 1/2 pound axe. Once the pieces are too small to stand on their own, rather than swing the axe to the wood, I choke the axe handle at the head and holding the wood to the edge, I tap it against the chopping block. The inertia of the axe head does the work. If the split starts going to one side, I flip the piece over and try from the other end. I average pieces 1/2 to 3/4 inches thick.

    When working out in the bush and I need kindling, I just find some standing dead wood and cut a piece lengthwise with the chainsaw. It makes long curly straw-like material that will ignite from the heat of the exhaust.
  16. fattyfat1 New Member

    joined: Nov 8, 2008
    104 posts
    SW WASHINGTON
    I was on MTF tonight and thought of you because of your avatar and sig. "I wonder if he knows about Hearth.com" .apparently you do! I'm starting to run into tractor forum people all over the internet. It's warm here, Ilike it...................
  17. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    LOL Small World.
    Someone over at MTF thought I was BrotherBart of this place. I had to come over here to see.

    Now, I've been known to take lumber scraps and buck them to length on my chop saw but I resort to using the axe to split them down to kin'lin size. Of course I'll also have machine cut strips but those are just trimmings from other woodworking projects.
  18. prtp3warrior New Member

    joined: Nov 4, 2008
    56 posts
    East TN
    Show me the Tank!
  19. syd3006 Member

    joined: Jan 20, 2008
    74 posts
    Northwestern Ontario
    I go through a pile of kindling as well, usually have to light in the morning then again when I get home from work. Up until now I have been holding the split with one hand and wielding the axe with the other. Reading this post and seeing the different ideas people have got me to thinking, I wonder how one of those filter wrench type tools would work to hold the split, the ones with the adjustable rubber strap. You could adjust the rubber to tighten snugly around just about any sized split keeping your hand clear of the axe blade. Think I will try it this afternoon.
  20. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    I really don't see much risk to the hands with the way I split kin'lin. First off, I don't use a super sharp axe. Choke the axe at the head with one hand. Hold the small split to the cutting edge of the axe with the other hand. Move axe, wood and hand in unison toward the chopping block, tapping the wood gently on the block. Since your hand and the axe are both travelling in the same direction, Newton's third law has no bearing. Newton's first law will ensure the inertia of the axe head causes the cutting edge to penetrate the wood slightly at which point it is no longer necessary to hold the wood. Follow through with progressively harder blows and you've got your kin'lin.

    I select straight grained healthy wood, no knots, and start by splitting it into quarters as you would any wood. I then split each piece in half again until they are too small to stand on their own. Then I revert to using Newton but continue splitting each piece in half again until they are the size I want. If you try to split thin "shakes" off of a larger piece, they tend to produce tapered wedges and you have to keep flipping the wood over to even them out.

    When selecting a chopping block, it should have a surface that is not quite level. This way if the piece you're splitting is not cut perfectly square, you can rotate it until it stands on its own.
  21. Stevebass4 Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 18, 2006
    845 posts
    Franklin MA
    since i got a new splitter i now use this to make kinding - works just fine

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  22. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    The neatest and easy way to make kindling is with a log splitter!

    I burn a fair amount of soft maple, so as I am splitting, when I come across a nice looking piece, I simply split it into about 1" square pieces with the splitter. It is amazingly fast doing it this way and the only thing you have to be careful about is, depending upon the wood you are splitting, some could snap off and want to go flying. I've had that happen a few times but only a little sting.

    My method is to sit while splitting wood (a necessary thing with my body). Using an old milk crate with a hot seat on top, I just put my left hand on the log and right hand on the lever. It takes very little movement of the wedge to make the split. Raise the wedge to just over the log and bring it back down again.

    Then as I am stacking wood I will put kindling in the ends of the stack. We also go around after all the splitting and rake up the wood chips and those also can be used.
  23. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    I couldn't be bothered myself, but I've seen those small paper bags from the wine store used to hold the wood bits. Just toss one in and light the paper.

    The wedge on my splitter is too blunt to split kin'lin and it would bother my frugal mind to run the splitter for such trivial work. My splitter uses so much gas that I'm tempted to reserve it only for the tough stuff.

    ...Maybe not.
  24. JustWood Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 14, 2007
    3,185 posts
    Arrow Bridge,NY
  25. ken999 New Member

    joined: Jan 3, 2009
    167 posts
    Southern Adirondacks
    Don't hold the piece you are trying to split enar the top. Hold it 1/3 up from the bottom.

    Your fingers will thank you.
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