I want to warn all those dealing with Fred Seton. This man is a very gifted con artist. Yes the stoves do work well. The boilers are problematic costing people hundreds sometime thousands of dollars each year to maintain. The design and manifold work seems to get many complaints as well. He always tells people that the company was sold to a different company and they cheapened the build. I know for a fact the boiler at his house has cost thousands in maintenance last year. He has great plans of copying another companies turbine and putting it on his boiler. He is going to write to all his previous customers and see if they would like to invest. He is getting up there in age so if you do invest your time or money with this man don't plan on getting it back.