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PC going down and Microsoft is the anchor

Post in 'The Inglenook' started by begreen, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. begreen

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    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    Had an interesting conversation with a very smart computer tech (Windows guy mostly) here in Bend who has helped me with a couple of Win 7 issues...and this was back when Win 8 was just making its debut. He'd been in on some preview type stuff for it, and he said to me words to the effect of "forget it". ;lol
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    Yep, my sentiments exactly. I was told that the market just doesn't get it yet, but it will. I told him, you just don't get the market yet, but you will.
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    Little lesson IBM had to learn. They survived it but with teeth marks in their butt.

    So glad I am not responsible for enterprise support anymore.
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    the minimal amount of time ive spent looking at it at work was not impressive. Feels like MS is trying to play catch up to the mobile craze and have this twisted idea that users want one unified look and feel across every device.

    When I want a tablet, ill use a tablet. When I want a desktop machine its because I DON'T want to use a tablet.
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    Yeah - me to...;sick

    Uggg...Win8. Using a mobile interface on an immobile workstation. THAT makes a lot of sense. Makes me want to poke my finger into my monitor. Just a suspicion, but I will bet that there will be an "update" to Win8 that will make it easily toggle to a more conventional PC interface. It can actually be done now, but is a pain.

    Microsoft being Microsoft. Pinheads.
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  7. Pallet Pete

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    Ray where are you ? You know you want to say something here ! [​IMG] we have windows 8 at work and to be honest it is a piece of trash. I reloaded windows 7 on my machine.

    Pete
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    The seem to get it right on about every other OS version. XP good, Vista ugh, Win7 nice, Win 8 bad.
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    Just like Start Trek movies ;lol
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    i had been a PC since the ealry 90's...DOS--->Vista. Had my CD drive crap out in Feb. trying to rip the Flash Gordon soundtrack CD to convert to MP3. It was time for a new machine anyways. My in laws have a newer laptop with Win8 so I went over there and tooled around on it a bit and decided to buy a Mac. We already had the Ipad, Ipods and Apple TV thingy, so it was pretty easy decision. So far, so good. Took my wife 4 days to figure it all out (mostly the touchpad instead of the mouse) and it really isn't any different from any of the older versions of windows in terms of interface. Click pretty icon, application opens...learn new icons. Either Win8 is before its time, or is way off the mark. I'm not sure. But, like everything else technology wise...just wait 6 months, it'll be obsolete..or there will be a newr one.
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    Its way off mark. It can't be before its time - Apple has had it for quite a while, already.;lol (poking stick at MS for yet another rip off).
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    Windows 8? 7? Never even heard of that.

    I have XP my on my computer, works just fine.
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    you know what ticked me off the most about W8? it was finding control panel....I actually had to read the help to find control panel.
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    Nah, I think they just overreached. If you have IOS on a workstation you'd be griping too. File management, multiple user accts., multiple open apps with side by side windows, etc. are impossible on the iPad/iPhone.
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    I meant the Apple mobile devices.:p
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    I pity the poor person who has to use their iPhone as a workstation...like fishin with a tennis racket.
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    Well, speaking of my PC guy, I just got one of his e-mails he sends out from time to time:

    Window 8.1? Didn't Windows 8 just come out?

    "If you were having a slow day, you may have actually read my previous emails about Windows 8. To recap, I had said that I felt it was a "wait and see situation." I also cautioned that if you were expecting Windows 8 to be the first born child of Vista and Windows 7, you were in for a rude awakening.

    Now before I continue, let me be clear: It's all very hush hush and the rumor mill is in full swing. You should also know that I am not privy to any insider information. I just read articles.

    It is, however, fairly clear that Microsoft will be releasing a new version of Windows 8 and the rumor is, it will be called Windows 8.1. The reasons for why the experts think that will bore you to tears.

    Now you know why I told you to hold off buying into Windows 8 too soon.

    For those of you that ventured into Widows 8 (not a misspelling, more of a sentiment), you will have discovered this bizarre blend of a tile/app format that shoots you into a castrated desktop environment whenever it deems necessary.

    Well, if the rumors are true, "8.1" will have stuck the final spike through the heart of the Desktop environment, sending it off to techno-heaven once and for all.

    Good thing, bad thing?

    That remains to be seen.

    If the new version cleans up some of the awkwardness of Windows 8, it may be a very good thing. For my part, I find it extremely irritating that, after closing an application, in Windows 8, such as Word, I am left dangling in an almost useless Desktop environment, that leaves me wondering why I didn't join the Forest Service.

    Reports are that this "new version" will launch sometime this Summer, I'll have more information as things unfold. Oh, and by the way... it is still unknown if existing Windows 8 users will get this upgrade for free, or have to pay. Just thought I'd mention that.

    As always, I am here to help."
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    You can just switch to the desktop for the Win7 look. It's the lack of easy access to basic controls and configurability of the desktop that sucks. And want to have fun, figure out how to shut the computer off.
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    No sweat, I'm a gun owner. >>
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    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    That'll do in a pinch, though I'd recommend the power switch if the intent is to be able to use the computer again.
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    The Elvis method....
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    Did a backup to an SD card, replaced the drive in the new laptop (came with win8 and uefi) with an SSD and put Win 7 on it, then changed to Mint.
    I'm seriously considering wiping the original drive and using it as a backup (750 gb).
    I still remember (and I'm a relative newb to pc) loading DOS, then Windows.....with about a bazillion floppies.
    Mucho fun.:mad:
    Brother bought a laptop last year and he uses the power button to turn off the thing. I'm waiting for a phone call,......any time now.
    Is it seriously too difficult to click a couple times for that? duh
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    Have a sister who does medical research who told me the other day she loves windows 8. Said i t is just like anything else new...uncomfortable until you get used to it. She sat down and familiarzed herself with it, and says it's great.
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    I started on DOS 3.1. I skipped the first couple of Windows versions but used Windows 3.1 and just went to DOS if I ever wanted to do any gaming. I remember having drawers full of floppies with backups of my backups. My first computer had 5 1/4" floppies that really were floppy. That machine cost $2000 and had 30 MB hard drive, all I would ever need.;lol

    FWIW with the newer Windows, I'm not sure about 8, using the power button to power down is proper. It has been that way for around 10 years.

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