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Porting

Post in 'The Gear' started by ampamp, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    6,823 posts
    central PA
    couldn't say it better myself, MM. I'm all about a good cleanout everytime I use the 041AV Super....it was built in the late 70's, re-rung two year's ago, starts cold in two or three pulls, and purrs like a tiger!! One word, MAINTENANCE!!
    #26

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  2. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    :lol:
    I would have to agree. Ported firewood saw only cuts your fuel mileage down. Only time its a benefits is when your at the limits of your saw. Sure hope your not there offten because its all pit stops and hope you have a good crew!
  3. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,947 posts
    Northern Virginia
    I was going to have all of my saws modded but decided not to just to drive wk up a wall. :lol: I may have the armature in the electric one rewound and epoxied though. :coolsmirk:
  4. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,309 posts
    Northern Illinois
    Now THAT is just going overboard.
  5. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,947 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Wait till you hear what I am having done to hop up my pole saw.
  6. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,309 posts
    Northern Illinois
    220V or three phase? Do tell...
  7. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Best way to hop up a pole saw....3 hits and give the top handle saw to Cowboy! :lol:
  8. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    I would bet at the end of the year I haven't put enough more gas through my saws to make much difference. My guess is my lawn mower uses way more if I have to mow a time or 2 more if it rains alot this summer. So whats the point. You probably drive a truck that get 10mi to the gallon and are worried about a couple more oz of gas in a chainsaw.
    BTW those new fangled EPA stoves are crap and you'll never convince me otherwise. :coolsmirk: Just kidding
  9. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Well I run in the 30 cords a year (Not all for myself) but I run a ported 460 and the one thing you can count on is its empty......Oh and hope someone brought extra fuel if not someone going home less than full.
    Wasnt a big deal back in 2007 but now its sure puts a pinch and 5.00 gallon is soon to be here. Oh, and I just put the stock muff cover back on and its doing better.
  10. mecreature Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 16, 2010
    750 posts
    indiana
    now you guys need to cut wkpoor some slack.

    I would think doing all the work on a clean new saw would be perfect.
  11. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    If you are milling all day and say the stock 660 is getting the job done then I say heck ya no mod, better fuel mileage yadda yadda yadda. But if your felling and bucking in the woods and you could take a 346 to do the job of a 372 then there is no fuel penalty and you saved you back all day. Everything has to be in context. And if your saw is faster unmodded then you had a bad mod job. It does happen and not all saws respond well to mods. But the only true measure is timed tests. You guys can try and blow smoke up my but all day on this but I have seen side beside tests with good mods against stock and it is night and day. But hey...... one of the reasons for GTGs is to see others work and debunk the myths. No one can really claim anything either way unless they show others the proof. I encourage anyone to come to my or anyone elses GTG and see for yourself. Both Ed Hurd and Eric Copsey are saying they will be at my GTG. For anyone who thinks they know more than these pros I say bring it on. Bring your saw and state your point. Brad Snelling will be there and he usually brings in about 20 saws mostly large bore Stihl. You'll be able to run and compare side beside stock and modded. Some just muffler, some ported, and some are supposed to show 2 piece heads running alcohol. Bring your stock 660 and we'll run it right beside a stock 395.
  12. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    wkpoor only see's one side. Been there and back many times. Better off buying the right saw for the job in the first place: With that said I do run a very quick ported 460 and it is the main battle wagon on the field most of the time. Doesnt mean it works for everyone and at times not even myself. Look at lee's post he does this stuff for a living and i supply many stove's and furnaces. Its experience thats all.

    See the sticker that says Magnum! ;-)
  13. Bocefus78 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 27, 2010
    465 posts
    Just Outside Indy
    Who knows how to start a papal acct for donations so jay can get a magnum tattoo????? ;)
  14. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    LOL, You know if its a big one when the mags are all singing! ;-) But how offten does a 50+ oak come up? :lol:
  15. oldspark Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 16, 2010
    5,113 posts
    North West Iowa
    Where are you going to put it.
  16. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Well at times it will say mag. When I get excited by that big oak it will say "This tattoo was made in Indianapolis's Indiana by a very cute woman just for smokin!" ;-)
  17. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    Well I guess its like anything in life. I've been to GTGs with loggers that wouldn't run anything but a modded saw and then there is someone who says the opposite. I try to go with what most people are saying just like what most people on this site have said about EPA stoves. I try to take from experiences also like the time I first found out about square chain. Armed with that knowledge and having seen it for myself I was telling a dealer one day about it. Mind you a dealer now. No way was I going to convince him there was such a thing let alone it could make your saw cut faster. Some time later he apologized and admitted it does exist. But the point was until he went and checked for himself I was a dump a**. So when the boys show up on June 2nd I'll make sure I take polls on the subjects talked about here. That way any ideas expressed here won't just be my opinion. AT lunch I'll play 20 questions to the group and porting, fuel, right saw for the job, ect ect.
  18. mecreature Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 16, 2010
    750 posts
    indiana
    I have been reading over at Arborist. They sure do have an enthusiastic modded saw group there.
    How much would I have to pay to get a 346XP maxed out by one of the Doctors. Just curious.
  19. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana

    Thats like walking into a bar asking who the alcoholic....lol Spending well over 5k on saws NOT ME! Good guy on a ported saw will love to see a couple guys running 361's stock if you know what I mean! ;-)

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  20. HittinSteel Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    1,430 posts
    Northeastern Ohio
    You don't want to hangout with those hoodlums hahaha

    Seems like the going price is about $250 for a woods port. Honestly though, as has been said, a muffler mod and a sharp chin is good enough....... but then again, I'll be grinning ear to ear running the ported 372 this weekend.
  21. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    250.00+ 500.00 or so for the saw. Thats a 750.00 for 50cc saw. Oh and I laugh all day long myself! :lol: Still wonder what that magium sticker is all about?
  22. mecreature Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 16, 2010
    750 posts
    indiana
    just taking a peek at the dark side HittinSteel.

    I guess the best deal would be a good used saw and port that thing.

    I can see the fun in it. Its the whats next thats the killer.
  23. HittinSteel Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    1,430 posts
    Northeastern Ohio
    Yes I have under $500 in my ported 372.......
  24. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,418 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Now your talking, thats my kinda of saw!
  25. HittinSteel Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    1,430 posts
    Northeastern Ohio
    It's not the prettiest, but it will last a long time....just got new seals, carb kit and a new piston.

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