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Screws stuck on Jotul 602 B outlets

Post in 'Classic Wood Stove Forums Pre-EPA (prior to 1988)' started by Psuedotsuga, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. Psuedotsuga New Member

    joined: Oct 6, 2011
    13 posts
    Durango, CO
    Hi. I'm trying to switch an old Jotul 602 B from top-vent to rear-vent, but can't get the screws on either the pipe adaptor or rear plate to budge. Too much rust/creosote. I've tried liquid wrench, tapping the screwdriver with a hammer, and even a screw extractor on one screw. No luck. Any suggestions? Thanks.
    Psuedotsuga, Oct 15, 2011
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  2. remkel Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 21, 2010
    1,433 posts
    Southwest NH
    Had a similar problem when I was changing over my old vigilant....I believe the solution was an impact drill.

    Good luck with this one.
    remkel, Oct 16, 2011
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  3. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,133 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Sheer them off, then drill them out with a good sharp bit, then retap.
    begreen, Oct 16, 2011
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  4. webbie Administrator

    joined: Nov 17, 2005
    10,949 posts
    Western Mass.
    On the stove, you might be able to get away without retapping - that is, drill them out and then use a though bolt to attach the blank plate or the collar. This depends on whether they are already through bolts (some stoves have tappings from the inside that do not penetrate the plates...)
    webbie, Oct 16, 2011
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  5. Psuedotsuga New Member

    joined: Oct 6, 2011
    13 posts
    Durango, CO
    Thanks for the tip. I've never re-tapped threads. What type of drill is required? Does the cast iron make it more diificult? Thanks.
    Psuedotsuga, Oct 18, 2011
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  6. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,133 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    When I rebuilt our 602 I was prepared for all sorts of grief drilling out the bolts. With a fresh bit it was a piece of cake. The bolts are steel, not cast iron.
    begreen, Oct 18, 2011
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  7. webbie Administrator

    joined: Nov 17, 2005
    10,949 posts
    Western Mass.
    If you do re-tap you have to have a drill that matches the size of your tap. It may have to be a size up from what is used now - if you mess up the existing threads by removing the bolts. But that might not happen.

    Most hardware or auto parts stores will have the taps and matching bits.

    Or, use the ultimate source - McMaster-Carr - the tables there should show the right size bits and taps.
    http://www.mcmaster.com/#taps/=ejl0m6


    Cast iron is relatively soft and easy to tap.
    webbie, Oct 18, 2011
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  8. Psuedotsuga New Member

    joined: Oct 6, 2011
    13 posts
    Durango, CO
    Thanks everyone. I finally undertook this task yesterday...three hours and three broken bits later, I have reconfigured the stove. Re-tapping was really easy. Removing the old screws was the big challenge. On to the hearth and installation...
    Psuedotsuga, Oct 28, 2011
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