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  1. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    977 posts
    NE Ohio
    I have a free standing stove in my house with a masonry chimney on the outside of the house. So the flue coming out of my stovemake a 90 above the stove goes into the wall and another 90 going up the masonry chimney. My question is with a soot eater can i make the 90 with the cleaning rod? There is about 1-1.5 feet into the chimney then up. Will these rods make that corner and still work? any help appreciated!
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  2. jimbom Combustion Analyzer

    joined: Dec 19, 2010
    1,022 posts
    Missouri Ozarks
    What is the ID of your thimble and the size of the chimney? My soot eater is pretty flexible, but I do not have to make a sharp 90. I wonder how the rod might wear at the touch point of the bend if it is jagged or not rounded.
  3. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    977 posts
    NE Ohio
    Ok don't know what an ID for thimble is? Chimney is a 6 inch liner in a 24' masonry chimney
  4. jimbom Combustion Analyzer

    joined: Dec 19, 2010
    1,022 posts
    Missouri Ozarks
    My question was poorly stated. I should have asked for the inner diameter not ID. And I was thinking about the cross section dimensions of the chimney. A small tight intersection might make it difficult to keep from wearing the soot eater rod. As the rod turns it will contact the inside corner of the thimble to chimney intersection. If that corner is smooth and rounded, the rod will fare better than if it is a sharp jagged corner.

    With your dimensions, I was going to bend my soot eater rod to see if it would make the bend at all. The condition of the inner intersecting corner would then be a judgement call for you.
  5. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    977 posts
    NE Ohio
    Ok that makes sense now (ID). Its 6" inside and a 90 so a pretty sharp bend. Good point on the corner wearing though, I could maybe rig up something to put on the edge to keep the wear down on the poles.
  6. jimbom Combustion Analyzer

    joined: Dec 19, 2010
    1,022 posts
    Missouri Ozarks
    OK. I laid a 18" long by 6" dia thimble intersecting an 8" by 8" square flue out on the floor. My soot eater rod will make the ninety, but it takes good pressure to make it bend. I don't know how the rotation would be or the wear on the rod under these conditions. Sorry I couldn't be more definite.
  7. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,921 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Sounds the same as my basement flue. I went through the thimble but friction on the rods at the turn after it turned up the ninety put grooves in the rods all the way up. And at one point smoked my new drill. Those heavy brown rods they started supplying with the Sooteater aren't real flexible. I am going back to cleaning that flue with a brush and rope because I don't won't to damage that liner. The straight shot flue for the stove on the main floor will get cleaned with the Sooteater.
  8. swagler85 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 4, 2012
    977 posts
    NE Ohio
    Well thanks for all the help, I think I will pass on the soot eater. Great product but I don't think my situation will work well with it.
  9. Treacherous Minister of Fire

    joined: May 13, 2010
    745 posts
    WA state
    I ended up snapping a rod when I cleaned today. It wasn't one of the white rods that came with original kit, but the black or dark brown rods that came in the add-on kit of (2) 3 ft poles. It seems to be made of a different material and like Brotherbart said is less flexible.

    A few things I should have done differently:

    • I forgot to use a drill/driver with a clutch. It simply bound up and then snapped it off.

    • I think some of the poles had dropped down in pipe some and into stove and when I started again it just spun up the weaker poles inside firebox. The creosote fogged over the plastic so I didn't have a good view in firebox at the time. I was amazed at how the white poles survived the contorted spin but the black pole just twisted off. I think in addition to bunching it up I had reached cap and maybe that threw a little strain on it as well as it was beating around up on top.

    Glad I didn't use the black poles as the first rods. Far easier for me to retrieve with it snapping at bottom. In this case just inside the firebox.

    Less creosote than last year. Hopefully I can cut it in half again. I'm going to be burning douglas fir, cherry and energy logs this year.

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  10. muncybob Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 8, 2008
    1,785 posts
    Near Williamsport, PA
    Makes me glad that I bought 2 kits instead of 1 and the extensions.
  11. Treacherous Minister of Fire

    joined: May 13, 2010
    745 posts
    WA state
    I'm now thinking about picking up a second kit myself. I still have the second extension that would work but am now leery of using this less durable pole next year. I am sure the extensions work fine for many but they leave less chance for error if the operator, like myself, pushes it.
  12. Treacherous Minister of Fire

    joined: May 13, 2010
    745 posts
    WA state
    FYI: Gardus is sending me a replacement rod.
  13. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,921 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Both of my kits only had one of the white thin rods and the rest are the stiffer brown ones.
  14. Treacherous Minister of Fire

    joined: May 13, 2010
    745 posts
    WA state
    I appreciate the great customer service from Gardus. Timely responses and quickly sending me a replacement.

    The president of Gardus even responded to me in a separate email exchange.

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