the warmest heating season ever recorded.

TradEddie Posted By TradEddie, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:32 PM

  1. begreen

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    I haven't found the weather channel to be that accurate for local numbers. My mother used to call and say, brrr you are cold and wet today. I'd look out and see it warm and sunny. Try using www.wunderground.com for your zip code and compare.
     
  2. granpajohn

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    The Mount Holly NWS office has a reasonably good reputation:
    http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=phi
    That should be local climate from (I think) Lehigh Valley Airport...official Allentown site.

    I agree with BeGreen on TWC. Poor excuse for weather science. But hey, it's television. Facts are not important.
     
  3. BrowningBAR

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    Okay, then we can take the wunderground weather details that gives me 74.9 degrees. Less than 1 degree above the expected average.
     
  4. begreen

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    Well there you go. Maybe Bucks is bucking the trend. ;)
     
  5. TradEddie

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    Once again, several of you are comparing apples and oranges. Average temperature is NOT average high temperature. NOAAs numbers say 2012 average May temperature was 66F, normal average is about 61.5F. TWC and NOAA could easily both be right if we had warmer nights. Feel free to provide any references that contradict. Remember, statistically half of all readings will, and are supposed to be, above average. A day, or month, or year, or even a decade above average doesn't prove a thing.

    This is not a climate change conspiracy thread. Yet.

    TE
     
  6. TradEddie

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    Can you show where you got those one WU? I can't see where they provide normal high for May. I see that they say average high for May 2012 was 74F, overall average temperature was 63F. On the daily pages, they say normals are only calculated on average since 1995. NOAA uses more than a hundred years of data for normal temperatures. Apples and Oranges.

    TE
     
  7. BrotherBart

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    I went out back and checked the official numbers. Last winter was .93 cord warmer than average.
     
  8. granpajohn

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    NOAA uses 30 year normals. Supposed to anyway. Currently 1981-2010.
    Look at the bottom of this text page, as an example:
    http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/climate/bwi/bwisnow.txt
     
  9. Seasoned Oak

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    WHen you use Half the fuel you normally use to heat your home (as i did last winter) and you kept it at the same temp, something is up. Keeping track since 2002. Used about half or slightly over the amount of fuel used for the last ten years. Dont need the national weather service to tell me it was an unusually or perhaps a recordbreaking warm winter.
     
  10. TradEddie

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    Duh. Climate is determined over 30 years, I should have remembered that.

    TE
     

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