was an ash can thread moved on advice from BeGreen with my agreement. be interested in comments on it wanna bring about change? get off the oil? great, who doesnt? problem is nobody has a workable realistic plan. one side is ‘drill baby drill” and the other is stop drilling and wait for the windmills. actually both have merits. face facts , we are in a down economy , i dont give a damn who is responsible (to be honest you and i are culpable as anyone) so jobs are scarce , revenues to the government are scarce, so its hard to get private industry to buy into jumping on the “green ” bandwagon when if it goes bust likeit did in the 70’s they would be left holding the bag.and we will need that bridge to get to where im going with this here’s my plan (overly simplified but here are the basics) 1. start by drilling domestically with only US owned and based companies, and drill SAFELY but drill. reason is this , this economy is based on cheap oil, as it sits now it needs it to prosper, drilling domestically with american companies doing it keeps money here and pays american workers. now before you get on your high horse and go partisan leftys, listen (or read it all) first. regulate the drill sites heavily with an eye toward environmental safety, put every means available into ensuring accidents are less likely to happen (i didnt say not happen because nobody can plan for every contingency) we only need 15 to 18 years of peak production so open all the available avenues , anwar , north slope, etc. driving down the cost of oil domestically will not only force out foriegn competition but provide jobs as well as kick start the economy here generating revenue to power this plan 2. mandate all car companies which sell in the US come up with standards for universal battery powered vehicles both in power regeneration or battery changeout compatability. which must be fully in place in the next 8 years, meaning by year 9 no civilian internal combustion powered automobiles will be sold in the US (production of military vehicles would be exempt for obvious reasons) now a mandate by itself isnt enough im sure some grants , low interest loans and tax exemptions will be needed as well but the mandate must be there just to let the private sector know its for real this time.infrastructure will also need to be in place during this time, that means fast charge or battery swap “stations” (same as gas stations we have now) will need to crop up face it the people here spoiled as we are are not going to be happy with waiting 4 hundred miles 2 hours for a recharge, its got to be relatively fast or “john q.” aint going for it. hence my demand for compatability among all brands , if its a quick change battery station then its a short wait pop in and get a coke or coffee while the battery is changed then charge based on KW difference between the new and old batteries. the spent batteries can be hooked to a recharger in a rack.to be charged and installed later on a different vehicle 3. all public wheeled transportation must move to non-internal combustion systems in the next 10 years (there is a head start already in place for this but its not electric. i believe electric busses would be designed and built in the decade. allow credits for this with a “credit for clunkers” deal for local governments to help defray costs along with a slightly boosted “per use” cost to help pay for it as well. i think its a pipe dream to have the nation wide public transportation that is enjoyed by europe today the country is simply not laid out right as a whole for this to work effectively. do it in urban areas where you can but with almost 90% of the country being “rural” its just not feasible to have that type of system. 4. start building nuke plants as well as nuclear recycling plants (yes spent nuclear fuel can be safely recycled if not into usable fuel into somthing that can be sequestered safely, its expensive now but only because its “exotic”) along with tidal, geothermal, and wind powered grid generation nuclear is the ONLY way to get out of fossil fuel. the “green revolution” could happen , it will take “manhatten project” if not apollo project” resources and at least a decade maybe two to do it but its feasible. it will take a national will. it will take a shitload of money, and it will take a healthy economy. none of which we have right now. personally , i’d like to see us make the attempt at it but it will only happen with the ENTIRE will of the people, a lot of give and take from the left and right, and patience as this aint happening overnight. and it will atke some sides biting their lip for a bit while things they didnt want to see are carried out (both sides) the pure left isnt gonna like all the new holes in the ground , and the pure right isnt gonna like spending all this dough on stuff that aint gonna show immediate results. but give it 5-7 years if we adapt this course and it could be special.