Tiny wood stoves?

emt1581 Posted By emt1581, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM

  1. Fiziksgeek

    Fiziksgeek
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    My parents have a Jotul F100 in their relatively small fireplace, fits well, works nicely for their small house.
     
  2. emt1581

    emt1581
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    Seems like the 602 would do just fine for me in the basement. I just have to find one used.

    Right now I just have to figure out the parts I'll need to hook this thing up to my fireplace. Plus if cleaning my chimney will really be that much of a PITA, I might go lined....and would need to figure out that cost as well.

    ...plus installation if I can't do it myself. But I must say, I've become quite handy in the past year or two. I'm doing things by myself that I never imagined. I LOVE YOUTUBE!!!! It's saved me thousands!!!

    -Emt1581
     
  3. begreen

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    Yup, and it's legs make it too tall for the OP's desired installation.
     
  4. evilgriff

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    The Intrepid II that is sitting in my garage is only 24" inches tall, 22 wide and 14 deep. It has double glass doors, front or top loading. I just switched to a Blaze King for longer burn times. I have a small house with limited space and it worked fine for me.
     
  5. CodyWayne718

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    Don't let vogelzangs prices scare you away from them. I'm going on my third or fourth year with my colonial insert and I have no complaints. It's definitely on the small side. We were going to get a bigger one for our needs but life has other plans so it's still here and doing just as fine as it always has. Something to look into
     
  6. Stump_Branch

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    He was referencing the little box stove they have Cody Wayne, noon EPA certified. Unlike your colonial i had one, other than being super small, she did me fine. Got me hooked to this stuff.

    To the op, do some searching on the brand or model, find one that fits, then go hunting craigslist or the like.its how i got both of mine and couldn't be happier. If your looking for that shoe box style of stove dutchwest made a 207cl, few years back. My favorite little stove. Could burn wood or coal, had a cat, brass dials, fall away handle, and a reversible flue collar. Good luck finding one, been searching for Some time myself
     
  7. CodyWayne718

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    I reread his post, sorry about that op! Must have been too excited about hearth being on tap a talk!!
     
  8. emt1581

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    I think I'm either going to go with a Jotul 602 or a gas fireplace/stove. The gas would actually be FAR cheaper if I'm going the liner route *flame suit on*.

    -Emt1581
     
  9. begreen

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    If you have NG in the house that might not be a bad plan.
     
  10. emt1581

    emt1581
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    Get this! My neighbor right next door has had NG in that house for decades. The gas company said to run a line to my home from the street would be $300 if I was getting a gas furnace. At the time I was going to get a gas stove/range, gas water heater, gas fireplace, etc....oh ok....then it'll be $3000!

    So unless the guy who answered the phone was smoking something that day, I'll be going the LP route. The guy at the stove shop today said he'd set a tank up and install it for free. But then I think the LP company owns it. Not sure how that works.

    But yeah, MUCH cheaper to go the LP route.

    -Emt1581
     
  11. begreen

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    Only in the short run. Add it up and I think you'll find over time LP is way more expensive, especially with a leased tank.
     
  12. emt1581

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    But remember, I'm only going to run it a few days a year...at that rate it might take me a decade to need a refill...

    BTW, what does it mean that I don't own the tank? Are LP companies known to just come and randomly repossess the tank with LP still in it?!??

    Thanks

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  13. begreen

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    They won't consider taking it away as long as you are paying them an annual fee for it and have paid for the propane.
     
  14. emt1581

    emt1581
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    Yeah, I'm not much for "rental fees". That's like leasing a car or renting an apartment. I OWN my stuff! And if it is outside of my budget, I don't buy it.

    So I'd be buying the tank.

    -Emt1581
     
  15. Piston

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    Just another recommendation for the the 602. My neighbor has had one since I can remember. I am 31 and as far back as I can remember he's had the same stove, up until about 5 yrs ago when the door on it was a bit warped. After that he went out and bought a brand new 602, which he's been using happily since. I've spent many early mornings next to his woodstove drinking a cup of coffee with him.
     
  16. joecool85

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    Wish I could have one, just can justify two stoves in a 1,250 sq ft home and it's not big enough to cut it by itself. If we ever get a big farm house we can have one big stove and then a Jotul 602 in a reading room/library or den or something.
     
  17. emt1581

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    On another forum and for a slightly different purpose...a foldup/camping stove was suggested. I looked at them at Cabelas and they seem pretty small but ample for my needs and again it'd only be a few times a year at the most.

    Again, I'm just trying to figure out the most economic yet safe way to do this. And if the Jotul is going to be it then that's fine but if this would work that'd be even better and less expensive.

    Thanks

    -Emt1581
     
  18. joecool85

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    I would never run any sort of "camp stove" in my home. I don't think your insurance would be ok with it either. I'd go with a 602 and be done with it. It's a handsome stove to boot.

    **edit**

    I will say that a Englander 17-VL would take up less space (great clearance ratings) and put out more heat. I love mine. It handles about 80% of the heat load in our 1,250 sq ft home here in Maine.
     
  19. firecracker_77

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    A stove is a permanent fixture. Depending on how much and where you like to spend your money, dictates what stove is best for you. I vote no as well on any camping stove. Keep in mind this thing holds a fire that could burn down your home and endanger the occupants. If you are leaning away from the project based on cost and you will only use it sporadically, perhaps consider an oil filled heater when you have company and you'll only be out a couple bucks a year. I think the fire place will offer nice aesthetics and a heater or 2 should warm the space. A stove done right is going to cost some bucks by the time it's all said and done.
     
  20. emt1581

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    Oil or Kerosene heater...why didn't I think of that?!?! Good call!! I could pick one up, fill it and be good to go.

    Thanks for that! :)

    -Emt1581
     
  21. firecracker_77

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    I mean the electric radiators with oil circulating.
     
  22. emt1581

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    I figured as much after the fact. However, that bridged the gap in my mind to kerosene. We had a pair of the oil filled ones in our old home. They sucked.

    Kerosene will definitely get the job done!! ;)

    -Emt1581
     
  23. firecracker_77

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    A stove is going to take at least $1,000 by the time you mess with install costs / chimney mods.
     
  24. emt1581

    emt1581
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    What?? No, I'm thinking about the freestanding Kerosene heaters....

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/MegaHeat-23-000-BTU-Kerosene-Heater-Gray/21804042

    Set that up, fit it with fuel and be done. Then when the guests are gone or we're done working, siphon/drain and put it away.

    -Emt1581
     
  25. begreen

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    Sounds like a good way to keep the guests from staying too long.
     
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