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  1. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Hello

    Removed the Lopi Pioneer Bay Convection Fan for cleaning. Wow is it Dusty & Dirty!

    Se this is what I did. Any other suggestions?

    1. Remove blower.
    Disconnect wire clips.
    Open right hand door and loosen back screws. remove front screws and bolt bracket and slide out blower.
    Use damp rag and clean dust under fan inside stove.

    2. Use brush and vac, brush dust off

    3. Use fantastik cleaner and rag, remove greasy dirt on outside of blades

    4. Use cue tips to remove greasy dirt on inside of blades

    5. Use 3-1 oil on motor shaft and then spin motor with test cord.

    6. Use Spray Graphite to stop new dust adheasion
    I have found the graphite helps to fill the voids from pitting and smooth the Aluminum so dust does not stick.

    7. Re-Install clean, shinny and lubricated!

    Compressed air can also be used but dose not remove the grime.

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  2. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,711 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    Its called a tangential blower. Part of this how-to ought to show how to get that stupid thing out with out pulling on the igniter wires!! what a nightmare that set up is.
  3. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Thanks
    Also when I put it back in, it hooked on one of the ignitor wires! PITA !
  4. Griny Member

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    58 posts
    Western WA
    I just went thru the same ordeal with that blower on my pioneer bay, and yes it is a pita to get the blower back in (only goes in ONE way)
    Can't help but noticing that you lubed the bearings on the motor side but didn't do anything on the far end.
    I know it's buried in that rubber collar... I wonder how to get to it though because that bearing is giving me trouble.
  5. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Hello

    Oh, yes I put a couple of drops on the other side also. I believe you can pop out that end.
    Since then, I have switched to TufOil Lubit-8 instead of 3-1 Oil for a more High Tech lubrication. Also I now use Dry Moly Spray instead of the Graphite spray. It sticks and coats a little better.
    See pics of lube here > http://www.pelletstovemaster.com/1_22_Pellet-Stove-Cleaning-and-Lube-Kits.html

    BTW. Good work Griny, you will be all set for the heating season!
  6. Augmister Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jun 16, 2008
    298 posts
    Socialist Republic of RI
    I just did my Castile on Sunday and what a freaking mess that blower unit is! Could not believe the crap I pulled out and will certainly do a mid-winter cleaning going forward. My bearings are sealed but I went through 50+ Qtips. I did the cleaning on my belly in a sphinx position and boy, was that a workout! Made a huge difference when I powered up and ran the stove.
  7. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Good work, Nice to get all that dust out and a little lubrication will make that blower last much longer!
  8. Griny Member

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    58 posts
    Western WA
    I pulled out the fan and took it outside and blew it off with compressed air! Gets probably 99% of the dust off
  9. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
    I`ve used the electric motor oil (harveys brand) in the past but it doesn`t hold up as well on my Fasco Ao-82 Fasco (combustion motor) Believe it or not i use Castrol Syntec 5/50 weight a couple drops under the button cap & on the other sleeve style bearing as well went the whole season. In fact i fired it up last week untouched from last season ,until i get the time to give it the once over. My stove also has a versa grate (shaker for the ashes on a cam driven rod) which i use silicone based grease you use on disc brake pads (High temp approved AGS brand)on the cam which works well too. > Outside the box thinking< My stove also has caster wheels on the bottom where the factory had mounted the their shipping skid but that`s another story .:cool:
  10. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Please put your stove make and model in your signature. I was really wondering how you like the versa grate? I have a friend that has one and it has all ceased up! She is too busy to take care of it, can it be removed?
  11. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Hello

    I use what the hi tech lube that the Pellet Stove Master recommends on the motors. TufOil Lubit-8 !
    It has the patented Moly PTFE formula

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  12. imacman Minister of Fire

    Awwwww...Don, it's nice of you to refer to me that way.
  13. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    Hey pete isn't the TufOil Lubit-8 the lube you told me about several seasons ago?
  14. imacman Minister of Fire

    Yep....same one. I've been using it for a long time. I was afraid to tell too many people on the forum about it, for fear they'd take credit for "discovering" it. ;)
  15. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    You are my pellet stove master Pete. Thanks for the recommendation. Great stuff!
  16. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
    I have used anti -sieze in the past but is messy & kinda dries up but the versa grate works well with AGS lube silicone based . The pellets burn with little ash as the grate aerates for a better burn >NO CLUNCKERS . I have heard people the motor for the versa grate is noisy but i think the little fan attached at that motor is what their hearing mines pretty quiet .
  17. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
    Can the motor be removed ? I guess but the may effect the burning quality It probably bound up from lack of lube ?
  18. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Interesting do you use the Tub or Tube?
    http://www.agscompany.com/lubricants/canadian/205
  19. imacman Minister of Fire

    Forum member "Xena" removed her Versa Grate a couple of years ago AFAIR, and didn't have any issues. Try giving her a shout using the "conversation" feature and get details.
  20. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Thanks Imacman
    Yes she did have it removed for a couple of years with no adverse affects but this season she got the new motor with the grease fitting and put it back in.
    I saw her post in this thread > http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/st-croix-versa-grate.78186/#post-998518
  21. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
    Mines not broken just referring to # 10 reply thanks anyway
  22. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
  23. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
  24. Don2222 Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 1, 2010
    5,369 posts
    Salem NH
    Yes, very good. All the Major Small Motor Manufacturers recommend Oil for their motor lubrication.
    I use Tuf Oil Lubit-8. Private Conversation me if you need some.

    LUBIT-8 extends the service life of precision bearings. It leaves no oily residue, is compatible with all oils and greases and remains stable from -60° to +500°F. Its remarkable lubricity and protective qualities will last almost indefinitely. Its dependability and convenient applicator make it indispensable in your work place or plant.
  25. Augmister Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jun 16, 2008
    298 posts
    Socialist Republic of RI
    Too lazy to play with a disconnect of the power to the blower unit so I have to clean it in the house. Yeah, my air compressor would be optimum too!

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