Understanding Wood Heat and Your Ceiling Fan

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Martin Strand III

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Nov 20, 2005
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NW MI near nowhere
Most people realize colder denser air is heavier than warmer less dense air and that as air molecules (mostly N2 and O2) heat up they separate more (become less dense) creating a slight pressure difference as warmer less dense molecules rise (less pressure higher up, more pressure lower near the floor). This is natural air convection and one of the 3 ways heat is transferred (radiation and conduction being the other 2 ways). It even has somebody's name attached to this effect; Boyle's Law. It has nothing to do with you or your stove. You may not realize it but this happens in most houses that don't even have a wood burning stove; i.e., the chimney effect. All you need do is understand.

So, air moves naturally from lower areas having slightly higher pressure to higher areas with less pressure.

Add a wood burning stove. This addition puts heat near the floor where the existing air is cooler and denser. As the stove heats up this lower cooler air, it rises. But now there are many more air molecules being heated than without the stove so the air convection is stronger as the added heat speeds up the moving molecules. As these heated molecules collide with molecules of other matter (furniture, walls, etc) they vibrate more (from the energy transfer) exhibiting a rise in temperature. As the warmer air rises to the ceiling it eventually cools and sinks toward the floor.

Finally, add the ceiling fan. You may choose it to blow air up or down. Blowing air up assists the rooms natural convection air currents. I choose this direction and a low fan speed in winter and summer. It helps my stove's natural convection heat in winter. In summer it cools by pulling warm air up where it can escape the house through an upstairs open window and be replaced by cooler air coming in an open downstairs window.

Of course, there are those who prefer to have a ceiling fan blow down. This pushes warm air down and partially stalls natural convection. I've found this fan direction to also keep cooler air near floor level which is bothersome to my feet in winter whereas they could be warmer with some time and the opposite fan direction. Why fight Mother Nature?

Aye,
Marty
 
I think Metal is correct -- the best way to avoid fighting Mother Nature is to have the fan blow up in winter and down in summer.

Why?

Because that's the way the air tends to circulate anyway.

In the winter, warm air rises in the center of a room, then, when it meets the (cooler) exterior walls and windows, it cools and sinks back to the floor...to migrate back toward the center of the room, where the woodstove and the fan cause it to rise again.

In the summer (assuming it's cooler in your house than outside), it works just the opposite -- the cool air inside the house gets warm when it contacts the (warmer) exterior walls and windows, which causes it to rise toward the ceiling and migrate to the center of the room, where the fan pushes it down.

In the winter, generally, you're trying to get the warm air near the ceiling to move down toward the floor to keep your feet warm.

In the summer, if you have A/C, the goal is to get the cool air that sinks to the floor to rise up toward your sweaty brow. If you don't have A/C, the idea is to at least keep the air moving, to maximize the cooling ability of sweat evaporation and "wind chill." And the best way to keep the air circulating is to "go with the flow" and set the fan to accelerate the natural convection currents, not fight them. So: Up in winter, down in summer.

That's my 2¢...
 
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If you are really serious, get a real fan. 27" 3 speed high volume. Our electric charges are very high, close to 19 cents/kw and we calculated it costs us about 40 cents a day to run it 16 hr/day. But face it straight up or across to an adjoining room and you get the heat where you want it. We keep over 2,000sf at a comfy low 70 temp even when it is 20* outside. We have ceiling fans (good ones) but they do diddly as compared to this high volume fan.

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1938 pops, regardless of the wisdom and inherant truth that probably are contained in your posts, as Dennis suggested might happen, I've given up trying to read them. :-S Now, back to the thread topic, I seem to have a ceiling fan that only blows down :-/ I've tried the only two switches on the fan and they don't seem to change that. During the last cold snap when it was 3 out with the wind blowing and 70-71 inside, I was sitting blissfully staring into the fire and I could feel the cold pressing in from my back with the warmth trying to press out from the stove. If I could have had the ceiling fan blowing up, I don't think I would have felt that but instead would have had a nice warm air wash down the walls and the whole house (including the floor) might have felt warmer. I might have been even more blissful! I have a fan my buddy gave me sitting downstairs. That might be my Sunday project!
 
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