New computer with Win8. The good news, much much faster than my old computer with WinXP; HDMI output and high end audio, very fast boot up; goes to sleep and uses practically no power, awakes fast. The BAD BAD news.What good are backup programs that don't backup data files??? Argh Supplied app BingWeather quit working in part first of all; also got a strange notice to update Firefox, didn't do the update, but it was difficult to get out of the site that delivered the notice. Then HP Assistant reported hard drive error and need to fix and reboot, and with that Win8 wouldn't load again, reported BingWeather file corrupted but could not recover. Windows Defender was the firewall and virus software. I was pretty sure I still was OK. First effort was a System Restore Point restore, but only one was shown to be available. I ran that but it did not complete due to the BingWeather file corruption. No other system restore point. I had a new Seagate 1.5TB external backup drive with Seagate's automatic continuous backup of data files, felt pretty good about that. Ran HP Recovery with the backup option. A 2nd backup of data files can't hurt. Recovery of Win8 went OK, and then the Seagate and HP backup restore -- probably good for many things, but absolutely unforgivable in major respects: -- did not backup *.wpd files (WordPefect document files). WTF? -- did not backup APPDATA files for programs. Really? These are critical. I didn't overly mind having to reload programs, but without the APPDATA files, my non-Windows apps were empty shells like brand new programs: no profile, emails or address books backed up from Thunderbird; no bookmarks backed up from Firefox; no calendar data files backed up from my old Palm software; no google.places backed up from Google Earth. And then the learning curve and struggle to find out where programs kept their data in Win8, as I was able to extract the data from my old WinXP computer, but it took forever to find out where those data files had to go and how to load them so that the programs could access them. Fortunately, I finally figured this out and was able to do this and only a few days had gone by since I switched over to the new HP from the old computer. So I lost several days of emails, lost a big project I had done in Google Earth, and lost recent additions to contacts, calendar and tasks in the old Palm program. Lessons learned: -- Force some System Restore Points. That might help. -- Find out where programs store their data and manually backup the APPDATA or similar files. -- If programs can export their internal data, export and save that separately. -- Get and keep the password and SyncKey in Firefox, and force a sync from time to time to keep the sync current. That saved me in recovering my bookmarks. -- Software developers should cut out the proprietary crap and have uniform standards for backup and recovery of their data files. -- Programs that advertise backup of data files give false security, because at least the two I mentioned don't backkup critical and important data files, and I suspect others also do not.