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  1. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    This wood looks like it will be soft and light, but it is actually pretty hard, and heavy! This tree was down in Irene (over a year ago), and I just cut it up yesterday. That's Black Loucst behind it, is this "Tree of Heaven", or something else?

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  2. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,410 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Its yellow so its going to be great firewood. My guess mulberry.
  3. Butcher Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 2, 2011
    339 posts
    N. central Ia.
    Bark looks like young ginko.
  4. Locust Post Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    814 posts
    Northeast Ohio
    Could very well be ailanthus (tree of heaven) or the other thought that comes to mind is aspen.
  5. jdp1152 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 4, 2012
    600 posts
    Massachusetts
    Did it smell like butt when cutting it?
  6. fespo Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 14, 2005
    292 posts
    South West burbs of Chicago
    I say Ginko
  7. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    Didn't seem to smell at all when cutting it. But I do have a bit of a cold... BUT, it was difficult to cut! The saw kept getting caught up in it. It was pinching the saw, yet there was no pressure on it as would occur if the tree had weight on it... It was laying flat and/or I was cutting on the side with no load... Was kinda weird, I stopped and sharpened the chain thinking the chain was dull, but it made no difference.
  8. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    It was a decent size tree, 14" or so at base, so it wasn't real young.
  9. bboulier Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 9, 2010
    436 posts
    NE Virginia
    Don't think it's mulberry. Mulberry has a reddish cast.
  10. jdp1152 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 4, 2012
    600 posts
    Massachusetts
    Only tree that I've had trouble cutting through with a sharp chain was dogwood. Have cut mulberry plenty as a kid and it didn't look like that. Not overly familiar with the tree of heaven when mature. Cut the hell out of saplings and poison the stumps to prevent their crappy tree bush hybrids
  11. Thistle Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 16, 2010
    3,901 posts
    Central IA
    Ailanthus or Tree Of Hell. I recognize that effing nasty stuff anywhere.Seems heavy now but is light when dry,left more ashes than anything I've ever burned.And it stinks too.Removed a 26" & 18" one (biggest I ever seen) & 12" ones off the property in March 2000.Was still chopping out & mowing over sprouts in the yard in 2004 before they finally stopped.
    basod, jackatc1 and LEES WOOD-CO like this.
  12. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    Doesn't look like gringo bark that I just googled...
  13. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    Yep, just google that bark, and found this pic. Perfect match. Dang, to bad doesn't burn good, there are a bunch of these down by me. Guess I'll leave them for now.

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  14. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
  15. jdp1152 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 4, 2012
    600 posts
    Massachusetts
    The BTUs listed for those are out of whack compared to other sites. Given the reality that actual burners here can tell you definitively that there is a huge difference in a lot of those should tell you all you need to know about the comparisons from that site.

    Regardless...you've got the wood, might as well process it further and make use of it. I've got at least two cords of willow out back quartered. When it warms back up a tad, but not enough to thaw that sloppy wet hunk of wood, I'll go split it up and use it eventually....or give it away to anyone who enjoys fire for ambiance. Maybe just bundle it up for when I take my girl camping. It is what it is and you've got it 80% of the way there. Don't let some chart dictate your wood choice unless you're short on space.

    Just look at Europe...willow is a coveted wood for coppicing for sustainable firewood. If it burns, it makes heat. Make use of it.
  16. Machria Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 6, 2012
    857 posts
    Brookhaven, Long Island
    Oh, I'm going to burn the stuff I cut, don't worry! ;). But there is a lot more where it came from, that I'll leave till I can't find anything else, which will be around 2020 minimum.

    But I see why those numbers looked screwed, they are comparing BTU's per pound of wood. It might take twice the volume to make the same weight, which then has the same BTU's. normally it goes by volume of wood I think, not weight.
  17. claybe Member

    joined: Nov 13, 2008
    203 posts
    Colorado
    Definitely not aspen....
  18. Jon1270 Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 25, 2012
    572 posts
    Pittsburgh, PA
    The mulberry common in my area is bright yellow when fresh-cut, and turns reddish as it seasons. This is definitely not that.
  19. Thistle Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 16, 2010
    3,901 posts
    Central IA
    The only attributes that stuff had (if you could call that a plus) was it dried fairly quickly & split easily.Still I'd rather have Silver Maple any day of the week -dries even faster,normally splits OK & smells wonderful.I actually seek that out when I get the chance.

    Main reason I kept & burned that Ailanthus is having 6-7 p/u loads of the stuff & not wanting to have to pay to dump it at county landfill or watch it sit on my front curb next to street all summer cause no one wanting it.Plus sure didnt want to take it to parent's property & risk there being any seeds in the truck bed to start sprouting later.That would make me enemies with the entire county if that crap got started out in the woods there....!!!
  20. bboulier Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 9, 2010
    436 posts
    NE Virginia

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