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wheres the heat !

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Beech nut, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. Beech nut

    Beech nut New Member

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    Hi there I just replaced my old buck stove insert with a used lopi revere stove.
    I replaced the old z.c firebox with a new one along with insulating and
    Drywalling the chase. New pipe and a 6" liner have been added ad well.
    Wow was that a lot of work for one person ! Anyway the problem is I
    Can't get the heat over 67 degrees in my main living area . The buck
    Could stay in the low 70s ! I bypassed the snap disc on the revere and
    Keep a hot fire going but what gives ? ?? We did have a cold spell along
    Lake Ontario recently and I do have a ceiling fan as well . My house
    Is a Partial A frame with 19 ' high ceiling in the main living area where
    The fireplace sits , a dealer wants me to buy a extrodinare hybrid
    Flush wood stove at the price of $ 3,500 ! I feel like putting the old
    Buck stove in and launching this lopi into the lake ! !! Any thoughts
    Ideas or kind warm words would be appreciated as Im beginning
    To lose feeling in my toes .

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  2. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Well, how big with the buck stove? The Revere is only a 2.2 cu ft stove. With 19' ceilings in a cold climate, sounds like you bought a stove too small for your needs.

    That's not the stoves fault.
  3. Beech nut

    Beech nut New Member

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    The buck stove is the regular buck from the 80s the firebox
    Was considerably biggger but not sure on the exact size .
    The thing is the revere is supposed to heat up to 2000 sq
    Feet. My home is 1,650sq ft . Not one dealer ever
    Mentioned ceiling height . I guess I just need a much
    Larger z.c woodstove insert . Any suggestions would
    Be appreciated as I want to get this right .

    g height to
    Me
  4. SKIN052

    SKIN052 Minister of Fire

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    Check all your windows, lol.
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  5. wkpoor

    wkpoor Minister of Fire

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    Yeh those sqft ratings should be cuft. I'm in a very similar sized space with 18' ceiling. Free standing does a bang up job.
  6. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    The manufacturer's claimed square footage capacities are usually followed by a disclaimer of average height ceilings, in a well-insulated house, in a warm climate. It's sh*tty, underhanded marketing on their part, but you know how that goes. In any case, you're breaking at least two of those three caveats.

    Multiply your square footage by your average ceiling height and divide by 8 feet, and you'll get a closer idea of equivalent square footage. Then divide your average winter heating degree days by that in say South Carolina, and multiply your adjusted square footage by that factor. Then start shopping stoves in that size range.

    ... or, just buy what begreen and BrowningBAR suggest... they know their stoves. ;lol

    I'm guessing on something in the 2.8 - 3.0 cu.ft. range might be more appropriate, but with more info on your house, and perhaps a sketch of the floorplan, the experts will nail it down for you.
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  7. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    That was a lot of work!! Is there any reason you didn't put a high eff. fireplace in, or just do a freestanding stove?
    I can't imagine the Revere heating 2000 ft. I don't think my Freedom could do that, unless you were home all day to feed it.
    These new stoves are more efficient, they don't necessarily heat more space with a smaller stove. Sometimes, but not usually.
    You need a bigger stove my friend.
  8. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    Another thing, what is the moisture content of the wood you are using? That is one of the main problems with switching from old to new. These stoves are picky, they only do well with dry wood, under 20% moisture content.
  9. Beech nut

    Beech nut New Member

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    Yeah the square foot ratings seem alot like most car companies mpg ratings.
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    Thanks for the much appreciated words of wisdom. i will do more homework my second time around.
  11. Beech nut

    Beech nut New Member

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    I did not do any research into the high eff fireplace. Can i put one into my z.c firebox ? the way my house is set up i really have to do a insert or i can extend it
    onto the hearth a little. Any name brands of stoves i should look into ? I did learn quickly that these new stoves like the drier wood , not sure how to test it though.
    thanks alot for you advise .
  12. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    A high eff. fireplace could have replaced your old pre-fab zero clearance fireplace. We have removed an old box and replaced it with a high eff. unit a few times. They heat nearly as good as a wood stove. Lopi makes a great stove, maybe, with a little work and dryer wood it will do the trick. If not, you might look at cast iron stoves, most of them have reversible flue collars, some with short leg kits. These will be the most likely to fit in front of the fireplace. You can't go wrong with Jotul.
  13. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    Is this your sole / primary source of heat? If not, my recommendation for now is, "do nothing." Hang around here a few weeks, read all you can, ask questions. Stoves will be on sale this spring, so plan to make your purchase then, and install this summer. In the meantime, get your wood split and stacked, so it will be ready when you are.

    Welcome aboard!
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    It used to be my primary source of heat but it is not my only source of heat. radiant floor heat and forced air both hot water tanks are fired by propane which is not cheap. i will stick around and start stacking . I had a huge beech tree come crashing down i need to cut up as well .

    thanks again for your help !

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