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Who says cat stoves don't get nice secondaries? Video

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by WoodpileOCD, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. WoodpileOCD

    WoodpileOCD Minister of Fire

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    I must say that these are exceptional for my stove so far but I was also using exceptional premo wood. Red oak at about 16%. This is at about an hour and a half into the burn and went on for about an hour. Stove was at about 600 and the cat probe at 1600.

    I love my cat stove and the long controlled burns and it is small flames and glowing for the majority of the burn but I love watching a show like this.


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  2. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    That's a beautiful fire going there. How long have your burntimes been averaging between reloads?
  3. Woody Stover

    Woody Stover Minister of Fire

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    I get that most of the time, and not only with the dry Red Oak. Do you generally run with the air cut all the way? I get flame with the air cut but maybe I've got a little more draft?
    Man, that stove looks sweeeet with the gold trim. I've got the door spring handle on but haven't got the bypass spring or the hearth trim on yet. I don't see the gold bypass spring on yours; When will you be taking care of that? ;)
    I've been reloading at about 12 hrs but the heat output is tailing off in the last couple hours. I plan to remedy that tomorrow. Taking over a trailer load with a liberal sprinkling of BL and Hickory. ==c
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    That's a little disappointing. I was really hoping that the big Buck would provide longer burns.
  5. Backwoods Savage

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    Here's one of the Fireview. Sorry for the reflections in the glass. Will have to be more careful in the future.

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  6. WoodpileOCD

    WoodpileOCD Minister of Fire

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    Soon as I get the Gold. :)

    I do usually run with the air all the way down but I have developed a leak around the door on the latch side which is letting in air and cutting down my burn times. I hope it isn't the door warping. I read a while back about someone here with a big buck and the door had warped.


    I haven't been loading it all the way up that often so I'm on a 8-10 cycle but if I fill it up I can get 12 hours of what I call usable heat and probably 16 hours and still have coals left for a relight. Not much in the way of heat coming out at that point though.
  7. WoodpileOCD

    WoodpileOCD Minister of Fire

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    Dennis those stoves throw some beautiful secondaries. Someone just posted a thread with pictures of the secondaries on his Fireview. Those are also gorgeous stoves also. I'm pretty sure I would have a Woodstock stove if I ever move somewhere that I have a freestanding.
  8. Woody Stover

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    Now, the wood I'm using there is cut for my stove, 16", so I'm probably not utilizing the fire box fully. And I have yet to burn high output wood in the stove, except for a load of Hickory which yielded a 16 hr. burn with 16" splits. Mostly been using Red Oak, Sugar Maple and a little soft Maple. I'm taking some BL and Hickory over their before the impending cold snap, so we shall see...
    That looks rather ribbon-esque...
    C'mon, man, it's $10! :p $9 when I bought one a couple months back. :rolleyes:
    Next time I have the door off I'll see if I can check the flatness...
  9. clemsonfor

    clemsonfor Minister of Fire

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    That's what mine look like in the HV. I too have gold trim. I have a 3.5cuft box and get those 12hr burn times. Maybe I just don't get the heat the buck does but I would thik it should be closer to 14-16 with the extra space over mine.
  10. weatherguy

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    You should try and fix that, thats a quick way to ruin a cat, dont ask me how I know.
  11. Woody Stover

    Woody Stover Minister of Fire

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    Did you ever measure the usable space in the box? The Buck is closer to 2.5 than 4.4. But every stove I've measured (not many, admittedly) is below mfgr. specs. Lots of talk here about picking a stove on firebox size but how many people go measure them. If you buy a stove without seeing it, there's no way to know at all. We need an "Actual Firebox Size" sticky...
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  13. clemsonfor

    clemsonfor Minister of Fire

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    Maybe when it cools if i'm thinking about it I will measure it. If they measure interior of the firebox the only space I loose is say a 16" widex 3" deep by 2.5"is drop area the cats are in. If you load right you can load to the top behind it but if loading NS you will hit this area before close to the top in the back. I had just started loading bottom NS then trying to stuff wood EW in the back then NS again infront of it. I do stuff small pieces in the front of the stove back into the bay window areas. There also is bottom firebrick that you loose that 1" height across the whole area of the stove but there is no side or back bricks on this model.
  14. Corey

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    Neat video, but 'technically' I don't know that you have so much 'secondary' combustion as you do primary combustion happening at the top of the firebox? To me, true secondary combustion is when you see a flame at the secondary air inlet holes. You may have fire burning up from the wood, but there is usually a clear 'flame within a flame' appearance. That second flame is the secondary combustion. But who am I to be the grammar police! Looks like a nice warm stove either way! :)
  15. clemsonfor

    clemsonfor Minister of Fire

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    no that is secondary burn. Mine does that too, when there not as good there will be flames coming out of the holes on the top, but when my cat stove gets going, due to only having one row of holes in a channel at the top you don't get the flames in the exact same fashion as a tube stove. But when it gets going it "flows" around the top of the box like the video, washing up against the glass, sometimes stoping for a few seconds maybe even 10, then going again.

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