Next year I want to try some Red Oak, the Cedar is something we have talked about planting around the house in the woods.I planted 1 year bare root seedlings. I've lost about 12, but the rest are doing good. This the second year. The hemlocks in the sun are growing fast. I also planted some Douglas Fir, Spruce and cedar. Only a few of the cedar are surving. Think I mgoing to try some black wanut next.