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  1. schlot Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 21, 2011
    606 posts
    Iowa
    The discussion on elm got me wondering. What kind of wood is hard to split. Elm apparently has a spiral type grain. Others? What are the 5 worst?
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  2. mellow Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 19, 2008
    1,783 posts
    Salisbury, MD
    Gum that has been sitting in rounds for 6+ months. Had to take an axe to it while splitting just to get it to come apart.
  3. BigV Member

    joined: Oct 1, 2006
    139 posts
    Akron, OH
    Locust on doubt about it. I had some seasoned locust I cut into 4" rounds and still couldn't split it. Stringiest wood I ever tried to split!
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  4. bogydave Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 4, 2009
    7,988 posts
    So Cent ALASKA
    Of the 2 woods here I have for firewood, spruce is the hardest to split, if it grew in a windy area, even worse.
    When I hand split with a maul, I saved many rounds for the -20°f days, it split easier when frozen.
  5. Blue2ndaries Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 17, 2011
    618 posts
    Oregon
    Madrone. Trunks grow twisted, spiral like making splitting a pain. However it burns really hot and leaves virtually no ash.
  6. fox9988 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 15, 2012
    495 posts
    NW Arkansas
    The worst I have split, green American Elm. Cottonwood sounds worse though.
  7. Flatbedford Minister of Fire

    I leave Elm in the woods to rot. If one fell on y property I'd haul it away.
    I cut this (some kind) Maple in the spring with my neighbor. DSC07089.jpg
    After a couple months, it is really hard to split by hand. I may even have to break out the sledge and wedges! it is full of little crotches and the grain is sort of swirly. Boy do I miss all the green Red Oak and Black Locust that I split last year.
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  8. woodchip Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 6, 2010
    1,390 posts
    Broadstone England
    I was offered a load of gum a while back. I split a small round (8" across, 12" long) and after about 20 attempts with my wood grenade decided that life was too short to bother with any more. I really had no idea that some woods were virtually unsplittable.
  9. jimosufan Member

    joined: Aug 16, 2010
    181 posts
    Dayton, OH
    just split Sweet gum tree with 22 ton huskee .....Piece of cake. That is compared to green Sieberan elm. bogged the hydro with every split. Don't know how you guys do with ax and mull.
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  10. Nixon Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 6, 2008
    628 posts
    West Sunbury ,Pa.
    That's interesting ! I've been splitting some locust lately , and it split well . But then again it wasn't seasoned . That might have been the difference . To me it's elm, sycamore ,and sweet gum.
  11. schlot Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 21, 2011
    606 posts
    Iowa
    I did a bunch of cottonwood by hand. The bigger rounds are a little tough but over all wasn't bad.
  12. midwestcoast Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 9, 2009
    1,408 posts
    NW Indiana
    To the list I would add American Hophornbeam (aka, Ironwood), though it ussualy stays small so you can burn it in the round. And also Apple.
    Virtually anything that has grown in very tough conditions (slow growth) and lots of wind (twisted/knarled wood) is horrible to try to split.
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  13. red oak Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 7, 2011
    616 posts
    northwest Virginia
    Gum is the hardest I've ever split. The gum I had was way harder than elm or locust. I eventually stacked the smaller rounds and set the larger ones aside for campfires.
  14. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,500 posts
    Michigan
    Once again elm gets a bad rap. It indeed can have a spiral grain but not all. If you cut an elm that is in the woods it will be much different than an elm that has grown in a fence row or a yard. We rarely get an elm that is twisted and most can be split by hand so long as we leave it until it is dead and the bark has fallen off.
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  15. TimJ Minister of Fire

    joined: Apr 10, 2012
    1,071 posts
    Southeast Indiana
    I had 30 rounds of gum to split from a dead standing.................no problem with a maul except for about 5 peices which had to be wedged
    Had a medium dead standing red elm to split in the spring............no problem
    Had a big dead standing red elm to split a few weeks back and could not or would not split it with a maul. Rented me a log splitter
  16. bad69bird New Member

    joined: Oct 7, 2011
    52 posts
    New London Pa
    I got a couple loads free iron wood last year, if i ever get it again I'll tell them to take it back
  17. rideau Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2012
    1,427 posts
    southern ontario
    Some of my hophornbeam spirals round and round,,horrible to split. But perfect firewood, and the larger rounds, one round burns all night in my stove.
  18. Fire Breathing Dragon Member

    joined: Feb 26, 2012
    75 posts
    Carroll County, MD
    Cottonwood was the tuffest for me (if that is what it really was). I used a log splitter so it was no real sweat on the 16" or so diameter rounds but the machine ran slow all the way until the last inch on some splits and the end product was the wood looked like it was split with a grennade. Stringy mess, I will leave this wood if I recognize it in the future. It was normal heavy as green but got super light in just a couple months after splitting. Hickory did not strain the motor at all but due to its semi stringy nature I often ran the wedge all the way through or finished the cuts with a hatchet that I keep within reach while splitting.
  19. Senatormofo Member

    joined: Jan 16, 2012
    83 posts
    Cockeysville, Maryland
    I recently acquired a few green rounds of Beech. Thought it would be fun to use my new Fiskars X27 on it. Wrong! It wasn't happening. The axe bounced off it like it was rubber. I can't tell you how many times I slammed that axe into each round. I finally cut them in half (to about 12"x12") and I got them to split but it still was a joke. I'll never touch that stuff again! I'll stick to Red Oak, Black Walnut and Locust.
  20. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    7,152 posts
    central PA
    Some of the hardest wood I've ever split was (believe it or not) Norway maple and beech. Now the norway maple wasn't your typical tree....it was a monster along a main road that had been pruned many times over the past 80 or so years, and every grown over knot was a stringy, knarled -up nightmare. Bogged the splitter many times, finally noodled the damm thing. The beech was an old growth tree, it was big and twisty. Maul just bounced off of it, it also bogged the splitter, ended up noodling most of those big rounds too. I saved some pieces of both the norway and the beech to make tomahawk handles and hatchet handles, both very tight grained and dense.
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  21. AJS56 Member

    joined: Mar 5, 2012
    212 posts
    Central Lower Mich
    We have a fair amount of Ironwood in our woods and and don't find it all that difficult to split. It is the hardest, densest stuff I've ever worked with. You can tell it when you cut it, split it, carry it, and split it. But I don't find it terrible to split as the grain seems to be very straight. Man that stuff burns nice. Good hot coals.
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  22. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,524 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Wood that has a lot of knots, twists or multiple crotches.
  23. mellow Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 19, 2008
    1,783 posts
    Salisbury, MD
    Imagine having to deal with 2 cords of this. Needless to say I was hard up for wood at the time.

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    Gum wood, pictures are worth a thousand threads.
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  24. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,499 posts
    Northern Illinois
    You all know my answer:
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  25. Joful Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 7, 2012
    2,866 posts
    Philadelphia
    Boxwood. There's a reason that wood is so coveted for tool handles. Stuff must be damn near as hard as a splitting maul's head.

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