Worth swapping engines on my splitter?

mikefrommaine Posted By mikefrommaine, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM

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  1. mikefrommaine

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    I've got the northstar 30 ton splitter. It has the honda 160cc gx engine. Works fine except the cycle time could be better.

    I have a briggs and scrap'em 205cc engine. Picked it up free, just needed the carb cleaned. Runs good though much louder than my honda.

    Looks to be a direct swap -- mounting plate on the splitter even has the holes drilled for the bigger engine. Question is will I see much of an increase in speed?
     
  2. 6mmbrer

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    My .02 is stick with the Honda. I have a Tractor Supply 22 ton with what I think is a chinese briggs and scrapem. It lasted a year before the valves started sticking. It smokes like crazy when started. It's a piece of junk. I'm running it until it dies and then swapping it out for a Honda.
     
  3. NE WOOD BURNER

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    Awhile back there was a post on a diesel logsplitter. Lots of great information on that thread.
     
  4. Defiant

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    Put a Honda on my splitter about 10 yrs ago when the B&S died, starts first pull everytime:cool:
     
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    At the standard 3600 rpm of small one lungers I don't see how even a Chevy V8 would change cycle time if you keep the same pump.
     
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    Unless the Honda is struggling with too big of a pump, you will see zero increase in speed. Pump displacement and RPM determine how fast the machine runs.
     
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    Don't think you'll see any difference unless the Briggs run higher RPMs (which is most likely doesn't ) or you swap the engine AND put in a higher GPM pump to take advantage of the extra HP.
     
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    I agree. It is not the engine's fault for the slow cycle time.

    In addition, you can speed things up a lot if you don't use the entire cycle. There is usually no need to let the ram go all the way back up.
     
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    I end up using the full cycle a lot because of the 4 way wedge and gnarly pieces of wood I split. And I cut the wood to 24". It's not that bad but faster would have been better :)
    I have 196 cc Honda that I could use as well. But I had planned to use it on a pressure washer (have a spare CAT pump that I picked up)

    This is the pump that is on the splitter - haldex barnes 11gpm

    What got me thinking was that it spec'd 5 hp minimum. And it's also the same one used on the 22Ton model. Which has a smaller cylinder (and faster cycle times)

    So if I can split everything (with the 4-way on) with the current engine there is no advantage to a bigger engine unless I use a different pump?
     
  10. MasterMech

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    Correct. I see a 16 gpm pump in your future. ;). They aren't terribly expensive either.
     
  11. Todd 2

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    I have the same splitter and would like to upgrade to more gpm's when this one gets tired, the only problem is in 6 yrs now it hasn't slowed down yet. The little 160 gx honda sure runs sweet and quiet though.
     
  12. mikefrommaine

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    It has been a great splitter for me as well. Very reliable and splits anything I put on it, even with the 4 way wedge.

    But I think I might sell it if I can find the right old splitter project (that needs an engine.) One that I can add a log lift to and an out feed table like the Timber Wolf splitters.

    I'm thinking more like 28gpm and 13HP 16hp would be about the right speed ;)
     
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    +1
     
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    At 16hp it would have to be 2 stage, otherwise he's going to need that V8 and I am not referencing the vegetable drink. Cycle times are directly related to flow rate. Very likely that all ports are I/2" and 1/2" lines and restricted fittings in between as well as a marginal size sump/tank. Standard commercial build on box store items. Nothing wrong that way. To quote a old tv show" we can rebuild faster stronger ect". Pocket book is limit.
     
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