Are all Harman pellet stoves good or are some better than others?

[Bassmantweed]

After reading a bunch of reviews on here it seems like the harmon P 68 is the pellet stove to get

my question though is I really like the look of the XXV. is it as durable and as good as the P 68 in other words are they all the same on the inside.

I could also live with the acentra

 

[Don2222]

Hello

They are not the same inside, the P68 is by far the easiest to clean and maintain!
The XXV and Accentra look pretty but you pay for it!

 

[Enigma869]

I second Don's thoughts on the cleaning angle. I certainly can't comment on all Harman models, as I've only owned the Accentra insert and P68. I can tell you that the P68 is exponentially easier to clean than the Accentra was. Ultimately, it will all come down to your budget and your heating needs.

 

[zrtmatos]

I have an Accentra, not a P68 and I do not believe it is a difficult clean up at all. I am curious what is the major difference? Can Don and or Enigna please chime in?
My other stove experience is with a Lopi Leyden and an Enviro Windsor. The Accentra is by far the easiest of all to keep clean and running well. An occational scrap on the Accentra burnpot is all I do and even that I can skip as the ashes tend to fall out on their own. Can't say that for my other two stoves. They will choke out on their own ashes after a certain point of burning. I keep the ash vacuum nearby those two stoves to make that maintenance easy.
Good luck on your decision Bassmantweed.

 

[kinsmanstoves]

XXV and P68 are the same price. The P-68 has a higher available BTU rating but you pay for that with an 8 pound per hour appetite for pellets. The XXV is a little harder to work on but much prettier. Either one is a great stove.

eric

 

[Bioburner]

You could go to youtube and see if there is any clips on the two stoves and their cleaning. A daily brush of a p series is probably under 2o seconds. Total cold clean with experience under 10 minutes without glass cleaning.

 

[jackman]

I've got the Accentra freestanding. I'd suggest you leave yourself with plenty of space in the rear when doing the install. Maintenance can be a challenge especially if the clearances are at the minimums.

 

[chken]

After reading a bunch of reviews on here it seems like the harmon P 68 is the pellet stove to get

my question though is I really like the look of the XXV. is it as durable and as good as the P 68 in other words are they all the same on the inside.

I could also live with the acentra

You should first figure out if a 50k btu stove is large enough for your purpose.

 

[oliveone]

I have a Enviro Maxx cleaning is easy. Once every three days give it a scrape if needed and about once a month clean out the ashes. Easy to clean, Parts are easy if you need them.

Did not have the Maxx-M when I brought my stove or world have brought that. I would buy again.

 

[Delta-T]

the primary cleaning difference between the P-Series (all of them) and the XXV is the location of the combustion blower. The P-Series has that blower accessible from the front, after removing the ash pan, the XXV has the blower ocated in the rear of the unit, only accessible by removing the body panel and undoing a few wing screws and one bolt that might be 1/2" socket size. Other than that...pretty similar innards.

 

[jslinger]

I currently own an XXV. I have a friend who owns a P68. They aren't really comparable stoves as far as output is concerned. If an XXV will do it, you are probably better off with a P61A, or even a P43 if it is big enough.
I find the XXV to be quite a bit better looking than the P series stoves, but I think they all look good.
The XXV is a little quieter and doesn't get quite as hot on the outside.
As far as cleaning goes, it is pretty easy. Scrape the burn pot daily. And clean the stove once a month. I don't think the ease of cleaning should be a deciding factor, since neither are difficult.
The only thing I don't like about the XXV, is how quickly the glass gets dirty. The glass is much bigger than the P series stoves are, and closer to the flame. I am not sure if the proximity to the flame is relevant, but the glass gets dirty pretty quickly. I like to keep it pretty clear, so I clean it with glass cleaner every day.
However, my father has the same stove, and he cleans his glass every few days. It seems to get about as dirty as it's going to get after the first 24 hours. It really just depends on how obsessive you are.
My friend only has to clean the glass on his P68 once a week.
They are both great stoves. If I were you, I would get the size you need, and they one you like the looks of.
If I had to do it over, I would have gone with the P61A. But when that huge glass on the XXV is freshly cleaned, I don't think any stove looks as nice.

 

[newbieinCT]

This is a fun thread to watch! I just went through a similar issue and was asking about the XXV vs p61a. We were in love with the look of the XXV but ultimately decided on the p61a. It was $200 cheaper and we got more BTU for the buck (61 vs 50). Will be interesting to see what others choose....I really do prefer the look of the XXV, just couldn't bring ourselves to pay for all the style when we really need the heat.

Keep us posted

 

[Bassmantweed]

Any thoughts on the harman va lopi agp?

 

[Bassmantweed]

Harman vs. the lopi agp?

 

[bill-e]

I brought my wife stove shopping. The stove was going in the living room. We bought the XXV, she wouldn't have anything else.

 

[Bassmantweed]

I brought my wife stove shopping. The stove was going in the living room. We bought the XXV, she wouldn't have anything else.

Have you been happy with it ?

 

[UpStateNY]

I have an Harman Advanced which has 7 parts in the burn area that have to be removed to clean. The other Harman's are easier to clean. We purchased the Advanced based on looks.

 

[Don2222]

Any thoughts on the harman va lopi agp?

AGP has 2 auger motors so it uses more electricity and that means 1 more auger motor to repair.

 

[Tonyray]

I have an Harman Advanced which has 7 parts in the burn area that have to be removed to clean. The other Harman's are easier to clean. We purchased the Advanced based on looks.

we went into the Stove store and right away, without looking or asking about pellet stoves,Wife wanted the XXV because of the look...
I told her this is going to be few thousand dollars so let's not just buy one on looks alone. not a good idea sometimes and it doesn't tell the whole story..
well, long story short, we came home and I researched Harmans for a week or so..
narrowed it down to the P SERIES..... liked the HUGE ash pan, the higher BTU's, the dozens of posts about easier cleaning and somehow convinced the wife The P61A was the best choice..
. [ she said if I sprung for the brushed metal trim package, she would go with the P61A]

 

[Don2222]

we went into the Stove store and right away, without looking or asking about pellet stoves,Wife wanted the XXV because of the look...
I told her this is going to be few thousand dollars so let's not just buy one on looks alone. not a good idea sometimes and it doesn't tell the whole story..
well, long story short, we came home and I researched Harmans for a week or so..
narrowed it down to the P SERIES..... liked the large ash pan, the higher BTU's, the post about easier cleaning and somehow convinced the wife
to go with the bigger powerhouse.

Good work, nothing like the P-Series ! ! ! Did you get the Nickel Trim and Scenic tile for the wife? I did! LOL

 

[Tonyray]

Good work, nothing like the P-Series ! ! ! Did you get the Nickel Trim and Scenic tile for the wife? I did! LOL

YEP!!

 

[Don2222]

YEP!!

Ok, do not forget the install pics?

 

[newbieinCT]

we went into the Stove store and right away, without looking or asking about pellet stoves,Wife wanted the XXV because of the look...
I told her this is going to be few thousand dollars so let's not just buy one on looks alone. not a good idea sometimes and it doesn't tell the whole story..
well, long story short, we came home and I researched Harmans for a week or so..
narrowed it down to the P SERIES..... liked the HUGE ash pan, the higher BTU's, the dozens of posts about easier cleaning and somehow convinced the wife The P61A was the best choice..
. [ she said if I sprung for the brushed metal trim package, she would go with the P61A]

We had basically the same convo. Husband wanted XXV. I wanted whatever was best for the house (although I preferred XXV). I asked the same questions and found out about ash pan, slightly easier cleaning, etc. Hubby consented...only if we DIDN'T get trim How could I say no? We are getting it installed in a few weeks

 

[Tonyray]

We had basically the same convo. Husband wanted XXV. I wanted whatever was best for the house (although I preferred XXV). I asked the same questions and found out about ash pan, slightly easier cleaning, etc. Hubby consented...only if we DIDN'T get trim How could I say no? We are getting it installed in a few weeks

Correct choice////

 

[slheinlein]

I faced a similar dilemma when I bought our XXV. Since we were installing the stove in a primary area of our home (living room), the look of the stove was a high priority for us and especially my wife. I could have gone with either one (XXV or P68) but when my wife looked at them both, no question we were getting the XXV. It sits prominently in our home and we both absolutely love it. Its something you will look at all year round so don't underestimate the look factor. The heat with our XXV is good. Our home is 3400 sq ft. and my downstairs furnace is off and it supplements nicely the upstairs furnace.
Cleaning hasn't been too big a deal although I don't have anything to compare it to. A lot of the cleaning really depends on the pellets I burn.