Chimney Confusion

[DannyL]

I'm looking to buy a pellet stove to replace my wood stove, I can't take the dirt anymore!
So I've been looking at brand X (to prevent going in a different direction) due to budget limitations and I called the makers of said product about using my existing chimney for the pellet venting. I have a 6" ID double wall that goes straight up thru the roof since my stove is in the middle of the house on the mainfloor, it's a bungalow by the way.
I was supplied the instructions which clearly states how to hook it up to an Existing Class A chimney. All I would need is a flue connector to make the transition from 4" to 6" and of course the need pellet pipe and T from the stove. I'll need to use two 45's to place the stove where it needs to be.
So I'm thinking easy cheesy right? Well when I called the local vendor of the stove I was told it's not going to work and bla bla blah..... I ABSOLUTLeY needed to line my chimney.
So now I'm wondering why would the manufacture tell me one thing and the dealer another other than to sell parts
I found this page and it made me wonder who's telling the truth. http://www.hearthtools.com/install/pellet.html

So what's your opinion ?

 

[Michael6268]

I assume your talking about Englander.

I had one vented in 8x8 clay flue and it worked fine.

Believe they still state ok to vent into appropriate sized chimney.

 

[sparklow]

My Serenity pellet stove has 3" pellet pipe for a bit over four feet then transitions via an adapter to an existing 6" class A chimney through the outside wall. There is maybe ten ft. of chimney on the outside. I am happy with the performance of this setup. I think you should be able to transition to an existing class A without an additional liner.

 

[Arti]

I have a st croix which uses a 4 in pipe hooked to a 7 inch class a Stainless Steel vent.
Works well no condensation or creosote yet, I burn corn and it has put pin holes in the vent cap. Keep thinking that someday I'll line it but haven't done that yet.

 

[JimD]

I'm looking to buy a pellet stove to replace my wood stove, I can't take the dirt anymore!
So I've been looking at brand X (to prevent going in a different direction) due to budget limitations and I called the makers of said product about using my existing chimney for the pellet venting. I have a 6" ID double wall that goes straight up thru the roof since my stove is in the middle of the house on the mainfloor, it's a bungalow by the way.
I was supplied the instructions which clearly states how to hook it up to an Existing Class A chimney. All I would need is a flue connector to make the transition from 4" to 6" and of course the need pellet pipe and T from the stove. I'll need to use two 45's to place the stove where it needs to be.
So I'm thinking easy cheesy right? Well when I called the local vendor of the stove I was told it's not going to work and bla bla blah..... I ABSOLUTLeY needed to line my chimney.
So now I'm wondering why would the manufacture tell me one thing and the dealer another other than to sell parts
I found this page and it made me wonder who's telling the truth. http://www.hearthtools.com/install/pellet.html

So what's your opinion ?

Mine goes into the pipe I had for my coal stove...6 inch all fuel thru the wall and about 10 ft up outside. Works great

 

[womaus]

Mine goes into the pipe I had for my coal stove...6 inch all fuel thru the wall and about 10 ft up outside. Works great View attachment 165397
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I hate it when you rub it in my face!!

I need a new pic of the dog.

 

[Pete Zahria]

So I'm thinking easy cheesy right? Well when I called the local vendor of the stove I was told it's not going to work and bla bla blah..... I ABSOLUTLeY needed to line my chimney.

Does he by chance sell the liner kit?

Dan

 

[JimD]

I hate it when you rub it in my face!!

I need a new pic of the dog.

Womaus, dang man I need to find you a stove ! Lol . We used to get so heated out of the room when we had the coal stove, and the dog would still stay there

 

[womaus]

Womaus, dang man I need to find you a stove ! Lol . We used to get so heated out of the room when we had the coal stove, and the dog would still stay there

Someday we'll meet up. But probably hate each other...

I know I will.

 

[JimD]

Someday we'll meet up. But probably hate each other...

I know I will.

Naw..won't be that bad

 

[womaus]

Naw..won't be that bad

Hmmm......

 

[Cory S]

Here's how my Harman P61A transitions to my previous 6" stove pipe. Works phenomenal.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

So I'm thinking easy cheesy right? Well when I called the local vendor of the stove I was told it's not going to work and bla bla blah..... I ABSOLUTLeY needed to line my chimney.

did the vendor give any explanation as to why it wouldn't work? or did he just say "cant do that"?

our units can be vented into a 6 inch flue (heck mine at home is vented that way and its predecessor was as well) have not had a single issue with that setup in the 11 seasons ive been running a pellet stove in it.

granted now, im biased (as I am a manufacturer) but I'd take more stock in a manufacturer's information over a vendor's after all most codes specify "follow manufacturers instructions" not "follow the vendors instructions"

 

[DannyL]

I was disappointed that I didn't get any feedback thru e-mail notification, so I thought I'd take a look this morning.
Yes the vendor sells liner kits! The reason he gave is there would be not enough draft due to the large pipe....
Actually 2 other stores that specialize in "stoves" said the same thing
I was curious to why since the pellet stove is a forced system, called the maker of brand X and told it would be fine.
Mike I really appreciate your input since you ARE the manufacturer and it puts my mind at ease.

I have a 1500 sq.ft bungalow but I want more BTU rather than less. Looks, well I like cabinet style because
I want to fill the least possible (100-120lbs). The whole reason for getting away from wood in the first place is to simplify my life.

So make some suggestions of models and I'm pretty sure Tom's going to say 25-PAH! lol

As a side note this unit will more than likely end up in my garage next year if all goes well when funds are better and a new unit in the house.....

Thx in advance for your help!

 

[stoveguy2esw]

I have a PAH connected to a 6 inch SS lined flue currently and have had exactly no issues with it since installation in 2009.

flue systems larger than 6 inch would want to reline but a 6 incher is not an issue with that stove, if it were I suspect I would have been having issues with mine at home

 

[DannyL]

I have a PAH connected to a 6 inch SS lined flue currently and have had exactly no issues with it since installation in 2009.

flue systems larger than 6 inch would want to reline but a 6 incher is not an issue with that stove, if it were I suspect I would have been having issues with mine at home

Since I'm in Canada is Canadian tire the only retailer that sell your products? I don't see the PHA on their site.

 

[DannyL]

Another question for ya, how come you folks don't list product by BTU values?

 

[Pete Zahria]

Yes the vendor sells liner kits!

Not a big surprise...
A little like upselling, imo....

Dan

 

[billb3]

I'm looking to buy a pellet stove to replace my wood stove, I can't take the dirt anymore!

So what's your opinion ?

Have you seen the floor on some of the pics on this thread ?

 

[DannyL]

Have you seen the floor on some of the pics on this thread ?

Ok a little less dirt and more BTU's per $$$? lol

 

[stoveguy2esw]

Another question for ya, how come you folks don't list product by BTU values?

because we list "output" values in BTU ratings as listed by EPA test results, while many manufacturers list based on "input" values based on how much fuel they can shove through the feed system so the BTU numbers on our stoves by comparison look anemic by comparison.

shopping strictly by BTU's isn't really the best way to size a unit to a home anyway

 

[F4jock]

I lined my"A" chimney with 4"ss. Love it. Easy maintainance, excellent performance going on eight years and no worries about cracking. Well worth it to me.