Combustion fan help - Danson/Glowboy Bayview

3DConge Posted By 3DConge, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:21 PM

  1. 3DConge

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    I have a 10 year old Danson/PelPro Bayview Stove. The parts for which are located here - https://shop.pelprostoves.com/Products/MDL-8004/Bayview-Pellet-Stove/

    However, the only part I need to replace is the fan, not the entire combustion fan assembly (part #KS-5020-1040), which is the only way it's currently sold at $250 shipped. The fan that I pulled had disintegrated into a pile of rust and was the old squirrel cage type and measured at 4.75". The closest replacement part I've seen is .25" shy here - http://www.pellet-stove-parts-4less.com/After-Market-Exhaust-Blower-Impeller-for-Whitfield-p/pp7902.htm

    Alternatively, this fan is 5" but doesn't appear to be the correct depth. http://pellethead.com/product/5-single-paddle-combustion-fan-blade-impeller-part-3-20-40985/
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    I've contacted Dason/PelPro and a few other places as well. None of which were willing to give me dimensions or an alternative for a replacement fan.
     
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    Try contacting member Don2222 here he should be able to help you.
     
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    More details on the fan I'm looking for. Do I need to be concerned with CFM when it comes to combustion fans?

    The measurements I have are 4.75" diameter and 1/4" shaft. The housing looks like with take a depth of 1.5"

    Note the old fan takes up most of the housing space.
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    Note the newer fan seems to fill the same space as well.
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    Another angle showing the depth of the fan.
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    Hello
    When HHT purchased Danson's Pelpro they redesigned 2 major parts of the old Pelpro Stoves when creating their new Pelpro PP60 & PP130 Pelpro stoves.

    1. The new auger has the quadrafire feed motor. However using that motor on the bottom of a top feed auger is not a good design.
    2. The new combustion fan has the quadrafire 9 blade impeller with the taller petals. This is a much better design.

    I myself would rather have the old HHPP2BD Pelpro stove with the new combustion fan than a newer PP130 with the awkward auger design. Just my 2 cents. I think the older stoves will last longer. :)

    As far as the CFM goes it is about the same.
     
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    Look up A082 Fasco on internet. Should be able to get it for $85 or so. You might have to use the Heatilator cast aluminum exhaust collector which adds another $25. However, the old Pelpro flatop and 120lb models had a metal collector that will screw in place, not sure about the bay model.
     
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    If I may suggest this impeller blade as a solution?
    This blade will increase the CFM from 85 to 105 and it will fit the shaft.
     

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    I only need the fan, the motor is perfectly fine.
     
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    That looks exactly like the fan that’s currently installed and not working.
     
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    Hey, kind of an old post, but just wanted to throw in my opinion. My Pelpro Flat top pellet stove had the same exact blower in it, and I purchased a used breckwell housing with a removable center hub, and an Earthsense motor and paddle fan blade for a Harman that uses that exact same blade you pictured, only 4.75" diameter, and it's working great on my stove. You may have to do a super deep cleaning and get all the ash out of the stove. I have my original squirrel cage if your interested in it, I may sell it to you. I bought the stove brand new 2 years ago on clearance for $350, so the squirrel cage is in great shape, I just wanted a removable hub for cleaning, and a quieter ball bearing motor as apposed to the bushing motor that was in it. Let me know, but I have a feeling that if the squirrel cage looks like that, the motor is probably worn out and could use replacement as well. I would also consider selling the motor and squirrel cage assembly as a whole, so that might be a good option for you.
     
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    I have another one of the flat top stoves that needs a new exhaust blower, and this paddle looks promising. More flow is always better. Where can these be purchased?
     
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    Where would I find that fan blade? I don't see a link in this thread.
     
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    I put the links to 2 of them in you other thread
     
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