Englander restrictor plate?

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Feeling the Heat
Dec 9, 2008
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maine
Doc, is this a question or a comment. There's been many a good threads over the years regarding this very issue. A quick search should get you going. Looking at the attachments, the welds in the second photo don't look quite right.
 
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Ssyko

Minister of Fire
Nov 6, 2017
2,271
Lorraine NY
Looking at the attachments, the welds in the second photo don't look quite right.

i was thinking the same thing. sombodys been in there and modded the opening with a plate and painted the hopper.Englader25-PDVemptyHopper.jpg
 

BUBIBEAR

Burning Hunk
Oct 18, 2010
162
central maine
Somebody took the original restrictor plate out and epoxied this in there . Was this stove bought new ? The pic of the plate with the screw is what it should be .Maby someone broke the screu and did a quick fix ?
 

BackDoc

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Jan 5, 2018
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Maryland
It was a question. I agree seems to be a home job modification. I bought the stove used for next to nothing. It has served me well last year and this so far. It does starve itself out once in a while if I am forced to use certain pellets. It likes Lignetics Gold the best but I can't get them right now. I am running Ultras which are soft wood and it will go out on occasion. It seems to be welded not epoxied. I may take the hopper off in the spring and cut a section of the plate off.
 

BackDoc

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Jan 5, 2018
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Are the plates a standard part of the 25-PVDC? My 2003 does not have that plate installed.
I am not really sure. Ssyko usually has the most knowledge on this forum concerning Englanders. Do you have a picture of the inlet on your stove?
 

Pellet rick

Feeling the Heat
Nov 25, 2015
379
Pottstown PA.
I am not really sure. Ssyko usually has the most knowledge on this forum concerning Englanders. Do you have a picture of the inlet on your stove?
A lot of the older Englander pdv stoves do not have the adjustable restriction plate
 
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chasf80

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Oct 22, 2014
7
Torrington
Are the plates a standard part of the 25-PVDC? My 2003 does not have that plate installed.
My 2001 doesn't have one either. I usually like not having one in mine, but this year I'm burning Turman and they are smaller then most and feed like crazy into the top auger. (super hot fire). Almost wish I did have one this year.
Been playing with settings on stove all season to narrow down the sweet feed spot. Think I found it.
 

BackDoc

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My 2001 doesn't have one either. I usually like not having one in mine, but this year I'm burning Turman and they are smaller then most and feed like crazy into the top auger. (super hot fire). Almost wish I did have one this year.
Been playing with settings on stove all season to narrow down the sweet feed spot. Think I found it.
I was burning LIgnetic Gold and they were short and fed well. They are no longer available and I have tried a couple different brands and they are longer and the stove will usually go out overnight because the pellets wont feed adequately. I am considering cutting off part of the restrictor plate. With the Lig Golds I was running 2/9 and was getting good heat and it was pretty efficient on pellets.
 

BackDoc

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My 2001 doesn't have one either. I usually like not having one in mine, but this year I'm burning Turman and they are smaller then most and feed like crazy into the top auger. (super hot fire). Almost wish I did have one this year.
Been playing with settings on stove all season to narrow down the sweet feed spot. Think I found it.
Does your inlet look like mine in photos at the top of the post?
 

Ssyko

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Nov 6, 2017
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Lorraine NY
I believe they added the plate in 2004 and up models, that when they started making revisions to the programing and feed rates. The plate is actually easy to make yourself with a pair of tin snips and a self taping screw.

Bacdoc if you modify yours do it in small increments and you may not have to remove the whole thing.
 
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BackDoc

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I believe they added the plate in 2004 and up models, that when they started making revisions to the programing and feed rates. The plate is actually easy to make yourself with a pair of tin snips and a self taping screw.

Bacdoc if you modify yours do it in small increments and you may not have to remove the whole thing.
Do you think I could cut a piece off without removing the hopper? I was thinking of putting a damp rag under the plate and cutting a small section off with a cutoff wheel or sawzall. What would you do?
 

BackDoc

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Do you think I could cut a piece off without removing the hopper? I was thinking of putting a damp rag under the plate and cutting a small section off with a cutoff wheel or sawzall. What would you do?
Or I cut about 5/8 of the plate off and using the cut piece as the adjustable restrictor plate. I would cut an oblong hole in the piece I cut off an then use a self tapping screw to secure it and it could be adjustable.
 

Ssyko

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Nov 6, 2017
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Lorraine NY
Or I cut about 5/8 of the plate off and using the cut piece as the adjustable restrictor plate. I would cut an oblong hole in the piece I cut off an then use a self tapping screw to secure it and it could be adjustable.
Are you sure its welded? It looks like it connects to the auger housing and that is cast. I would cut it as close to the housing as yoy can, but leave just enough to get a screw into the base. Watch the length of the screw don’t want it to connect with the auger


Cut - yellow
New position - green
Screw - red

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BackDoc

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Are you sure its welded? It looks like it connects to the auger housing and that is cast. I would cut it as close to the housing as yoy can, but leave just enough to get a screw into the base. Watch the length of the screw don’t want it to connect with the auger
I am 99% sure it is welded. I am at work now so I will look when I get home. I will make sure the screw doesnt touch the auger.
 

BackDoc

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Jan 5, 2018
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So I went home last night and was going to try to alter the restrictor plate however my wife topped the hopper off just before I got home. It was 3 degrees last night and I figured that would not be the best time to go messing around with it. My stove was manufactured 8/2004 and I am convinced this plate is factory. The hopper has not been repainted and the restrictor plate is not home made looking. The pellets pictured are what is giving me a hard time. I am going to wait for this cold snap to pass (50's by Sunday) and attempt to make the restrictor plate adjustable. It is not attached to the auger housing but to the hopper itself. My thought was to cut the plate across leaving enough room to drill a hole for a set screw and put an oblong hole in the piece I cut off to use as an adjustable plate. I am hoping Ssyko chimes in with some input.
 

chasf80

Member
Oct 22, 2014
7
Torrington
So I went home last night and was going to try to alter the restrictor plate however my wife topped the hopper off just before I got home. It was 3 degrees last night and I figured that would not be the best time to go messing around with it. My stove was manufactured 8/2004 and I am convinced this plate is factory. The hopper has not been repainted and the restrictor plate is not home made looking. The pellets pictured are what is giving me a hard time. I am going to wait for this cold snap to pass (50's by Sunday) and attempt to make the restrictor plate adjustable. It is not attached to the auger housing but to the hopper itself. My thought was to cut the plate across leaving enough room to drill a hole for a set screw and put an oblong hole in the piece I cut off to use as an adjustable plate. I am hoping Ssyko chimes in with some input.
This is what the factory plate would look like..
https://heatredefined.com/collections/pdvc/products/pu-rp

Someone might have epoxied your plate in place, if you cant find any welds??
 
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BackDoc

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This is what the factory plate would look like..
https://heatredefined.com/collections/pdvc/products/pu-rp

Someone might have epoxied your plate in place, if you cant find any welds??
I dont think so. Ssyko stated that 04 and prior Englander did not use the restrictor plate that you have pictured. It looks like it is from the factory. I wont know for sure until I pull the hopper off and I am not doing that until the burn season is over.
 

BackDoc

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Jan 5, 2018
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Are you sure its welded? It looks like it connects to the auger housing and that is cast. I would cut it as close to the housing as yoy can, but leave just enough to get a screw into the base. Watch the length of the screw don’t want it to connect with the auger


Cut - yellow
New position - green
Screw - red

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This is exactly what I was thinking. Thanks, I just realized you attached photos with instructions. You are the man. Thanks again.
 

BackDoc

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So after some debate I opted to not pull the stove apart until the burn season is over. I measured a piece of metal to use as an actual restrictor plate when I tear the stove apart in the spring. In the meantime I cut a piece of the original restrictor plate off and this stove is running like a top. I may just leave it as is. The repair is like the stove, ugly and functional.