new to burning pellets and I am having issues with my stove. I had great heat from the stove when installed in my basement just not enough to heat the upstairs as well as I had hoped for. I moved the stove upstairs into an extra room that is about 12 feet by 12 feet. I had an issue burning dirty and found it to be a clogged outside air intake. since then I have cleaned the stove (a million times), pounded on it with a hammer (as other forums here suggested), and made a hose hook up to my shop vac and cleaned down the air exchange holes and up from the clean out doors. the problem is that no matter what I set the stove on (heat setting 3 through 9) I am only able to heat this one 12 by 12 room to 80 degrees which leaves the rest of the house cold and me burning propane! I have been getting tons of help through other posts on here (most of you guys are great about sharing your knowledge!) but this one has me stumped! I spoke with tech support and they had me do a reset on the control board and try running in corn mode to increase btus but I am still not warming the room any better. i also went out today and bought a second brand of pellets to no avail. opinions welcomed!
Englander Summers Heat 49-SHCPM not heating properly
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Harvey Schneider
Minister of Fire
More information is needed.
Is the room insulated?
Are the windows sealed?
Is the convection blower on 9?
Is hot air coming from the convection port?
How many pounds of pellets does it burn per hour?
Is the room insulated?
Are the windows sealed?
Is the convection blower on 9?
Is hot air coming from the convection port?
How many pounds of pellets does it burn per hour?
Distribution is usually the toughest part of heating your home from one point. And if you have the stove away in a room its quite possible that it is just heating that room, recirculating the hot air. Do you have at least a fan blowing colder house air into that room so the stove has something to heat up other than the already heated warm air around it?
we are debating moving the stove into the living room but earlier in the season we were holding the house at 74 to 76 degrees. the strange thing is if I turn off the circulating fans and just run the stove on setting 3 through 9 I still only get this 150 sq foot room upto 80 degrees. shouldn't I get a lot more heat from the higher settings??
Hmm not sure. If its mild out my PAH will get my stove room up to 80 but I've never intentially tried to go higher. My stove room is probably more than double the size too. I'll have to look up the specs on your stove, but almost sounds a little low - mine used 113 lbs in 24hrs set on 7 the one time I measured it.
Polar Bear
Feeling the Heat
The only way that you can tell if the stove is working properly is to take a temperature reading of the stove! It doesn't matter how hot everyone else says their room is vs the temperature of your room is. Compare the temp of the stove with someone who has the same stove.
Chrisnow86
Minister of Fire
Is your floor insulated? If so your trapping all your heat in the basement with nowhere for it to go... With a stove in the basement you wanna radiate the heat up threw the floor.. And some venting added will help but watch you don't break any fire codes
pell it
Feeling the Heat
I do not have your stove or house, but if my stove was in a 12 X 12 room cranking full tilt, I could roast the Thanksgiving turkey in that room. Is the stove running on a thermostat?
pell it
Feeling the Heat
40 pounds in 12 hours is 3.33 pounds per hour. Figuring 8000 btu per pound equals 26k btu per hour input with say 75% efficiency would be around 20k btu into the room.
Harvey Schneider
Minister of Fire
For comparison sake, that is the equivalent to about four 1500 W space heaters running at the same time. There has to be some serious heat loss in that room. Time to do some thermal imaging.
Or is it all going up the flue?
sorry I haven't been on in a while--flu bug hit the house pretty hard!
where should I take the temp from? right in front of when the blower is blowing??
nope no thermostat...just running from the digital settings on the side. today I went out and the room was 86 but the stove was super dirty from a few days of burning. the new pellets I bought make a lot of build up in the pot and had the holes in the bottom of the pot were mostly covered in build up. I cleaned the stove and now I cant get the room up to 80! I am thinking I am maybe getting too much air through the system but these isn't an adjustment for air like some of the older stoves. I talked to service and they advised me to try corn mode but with the bottom 3 buttons set to pellet settings of 1-4-1. I have since moved them to 2-2-1 which seems to give me a little more heat but I still am not cooking turkey!
I have spent some time looking at renting thermal imaging cameras but do not have the money right now. the house was built in 2011 but it is a room with a door to the garage, outside, basement, kitchen, and a small doggie door. we keep everything closed up except the kitchen and even put one of those as seen on tv under door insulators on the basement door. is there a way to tell how much heat I am loosing out the vent? it is hot but I can put my hand pretty close to the exhaust.
knowing that the stove seems to heat better after a few days...what is changing when it hasn't been cleaned? all I can come up with is less air but tech support had me adjust the settings for the blower speed (they assured me that the buttons do affect things even when set above 3) and it did not seem to help. what else could a dirty stove cause the I can adjust or replicate?
funflyer
Burning Hunk
I believe your stove is the same under the hood as my 49-SHC22, just a styling change and auto ignite. I left mine in corn mode and it seems to crank out the heat. I only run it at level 5 or 6 when temps are below freezing and then drop as needed during the day as temps outside rise. I always leave the fan speed on level 9. If you want to compare the heat output between stoves let me know. Also, what size vent pipe are you using and how long of a run to the end cap?
I am using 3 inch twist lock and it runs one foot out the stove horizonal (and through the wall) to a clean out t then up 6 feet to a 90 then 1 foot horizontal and capped. I would love to compare heat output...I just need to know where to measure it at and would a regular digital thermostat work to measure it??
I have noticed that when in corn mode the flame is about 5 inches high and very blue where as in pellet mode it is as tall as the box (10 to 14 inches) and a lot more orange. was that similar to what you have found with yours? both seem to put out about the same heat and use the same amount of pellets.
funflyer
Burning Hunk
I have not run it in pellet mode but in corn mode the flames are 5-6 inches on setting 1-3 and about twice that when on 4 and above. Flames are orange in all settings with no blue. Did you leave the stirrer in when in corn mode? I left the stirrer in and it keeps the pot clean.
I leave the stirrer in and run on setting 9 with only a 5 to 6 inch flame but it is mostly blue which i believe is a good thing. i never have run below a 7 except if it is over 50 degrees outside and then it is usually a 5. if i can keep my stove room at 81 or 82 with a fan blowing air into the room and another on top of the doorway blowing out i can keep the house just comfortable but it seems like i shouldn't need to run so high! on a positive note it is still cheaper than propane which was running me about $20 a day last year!
i am going to try and get a picture up of my set up and see if anyone sees any major issues!
funflyer
Burning Hunk
Sounds like you're getting too much air in the corn mode. I leave the fuel feed at 2 and the burn air at 4.
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