Frustrating Tree Identification

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
2,806
Downeast Maine
There's a weird tree/shrub behind my house that has eluded identification. It looks like a mountain ash crossed with a pin cherry. Smooth bark, non serrated leaves, but berries that resemble tiny cherries. The berry flesh is white, extremely bitter, and contains four pale seeds. There is a mountain ash right next to it, which I assumed they were the same until they started fruiting.

Any ideas? I've chekcked all my field guides, online resources, etc with no luck. Even locals think we are making it up. I'm going to try on the Arborist forums as well.
 

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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
I was going to say serviceberry, but the bitter fruit doesn't match. Does this bush change color in autumn and lose its leaves? Did you notice what its flower is like in spring?
 

begreen

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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
2,806
Downeast Maine
I was going to say serviceberry, but the bitter fruit doesn't match. Does this bush change color in autumn and lose its leaves? Did you notice what its flower is like in spring?
I want to say the flowers were small and white, but I also just assumed it was a cherry tree of some sort. If it does change colors, it will be soon. We moved in right after the leaves fell, only a few Tamaracks had needles.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
Might be a form of winterberry. It grows wild in Maine.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
2,806
Downeast Maine
I don't think it's winterberry. This shrub has berries on stems, but otherwise the berries do look like Holly berries. The leaves are not pointed or sharp.
 

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Knots

Minister of Fire
Mar 13, 2013
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Alfred, Maine
Does not resemble the winter berry I'm familiar with. Downeast has some different flora than the west, but I'd start looking at the possibility of ornamentals...
 
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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
2,806
Downeast Maine
Does not resemble the winter berry I'm familiar with. Downeast has some different flora than the west, but I'd start looking at the possibility of ornamentals...
It could have been planted, I didn't consider that. It's next to an old shed, but the shed is on a tiny slab...