Gas fireplace stove

[anonymous1977]

Who makes the best gas fireplace stove for hearing about 900sq ft basement. Since it's basement, is venting possible?

 

[DAKSY]

Any reputable manufacturer will have something that will do the job.
The questions we need answers to are:
How much of the foundation is exposed to the elements?
Is that wall insulated (inside or outside)?
Is it broken up into smaller rooms, or is it an open plan?
Is there a box joist on top of the foundation that has
clearance to install a vent?
That's where you would want to run the venting
& install the cap on the outside...

 

[anonymous1977]

Any recommendations on good brands to consider for the stove? I have attached pics showing the wall in front of which the stove could go with unfinished space behind. If I turned around 90 degree, the adjoining wall is right under the deck but that would mean running plumbing through sheer rock and having to open up sheetrock. The reason I was thinking of putting on the wall shown is because of the access to the unfinished space behind.

 

[DAKSY]

Are you thinking of a free-standing unit - Stove,
or an in (or against) the wall unit - fireplace?

 

[anonymous1977]

Freestanding stove

 

[DAKSY]

You will have to find a couple of units that will work for you & read the install manuals to
determine if you can run that far horizontally with the vent. There are ratios between rise
& run that need to be adhered to or the units will not perform correctly.
A gas fireplace could be installed IN the wall & venting that type of unit shouldn't be an issue,
not to mention the floor space that will be saved. Your call.

 

[anonymous1977]

Thank. So this is the situation. My primary purpose for a heat source was that my basement was getting cold. From there it somehow expanded to putting a fireplace in my family room and then an estimate from Mendota for a $13k-$14k to do a floor to ceiling bump out in the family room and install a fireplace. I was not planning to spend this much money.

So I went back to my roots to figure out where this all started and it came back to the basement being cold. So there are three options now:

1. Vented fireplace in basement
2. Ventless fireplace and stove in basement
3. Vented stove in basement

For #1 I will need to call mendota to come back and redo the measurements and give me a quote. My thought is that a floor to ceiling bump out is not needed and they could flush the fireplace into the wall because there is unfinished space behind for all HVAC. And plumbing run will be smaller than the 30ft run needed for my family room 1st floor install. So I could save on framing cost but I will need to call the company to come back and do a measurement.

On #2, I am being strongly advised not to do ventless.

On #3, I have sent an email asking for Lopi prices but in the meanwhile I got the following prices for Vermont castings as below.

Cost of stove - radiance stove is $2890- $3485 depending on color. Stardance is $2550-$3145 depending on color. My basement is 900 sq ft. Radiance has 25k to 38k BTU and stardance has 20k to 28k BTU.

Cost of install - $1530

Cost of hearth pad - $600

Cost of plumbing - $400

So I will spend between $5080 - $6015

I expected a gas stove to run lower in cost but was a bit surprised seeing the above. Addition costs above seem to be a $300 bump in cost of install because of additional vertical venting and $600 for a hearth pad.

Is this normal pricing or am I being taken for a ride? Would I be ok going for the lower BTU above for a 900 sq ft space.

I do see gas stoves much cheaper online. So am I not doing this correctly or should I just pursue a different manufacturer? I still need to get Lopi prices.

 

[DAKSY]

$600 for a hearthpad? That's pretty expensive.
Many gas units only require the "footprint" of the
unit for hearth pad coverage. Jotul is one manufacturer
who this applies to. Here's one I found on line that might
work for you with a Jotul:

Hy-C 28 x 32 Inches Grey Slate Type 2 Stove Board

Hy-C 28 x 32 Inches Grey Slate Type 2 Stove Board This stove board provides a beautiful addition to any fireplace. Whether you use a gas, traditional, or electric heating appliance, this stove board can help protect the interior of your home from being damaged by the effects of your fireplace.

www.efireplacestore.com

How much gas line needs to be run?

 

[anonymous1977]

Thanks. I had a plumber do an estimate for the gas line. He will charge $340 if it's the wall with the door. If I have do the dark green wall the pipe probably needs to run outside and I will need to get an estimate for that. How are the other costs?

 

[clancey]

I think you have done very well with your pricing and cost to install. My hearth Pad was 573.00 made out of brick and my installation for a wood burning stove with ceiling and walls bear already is about 1300,00 give or take a few here just a estimate. If you do a footprint like Dasky suggested you could save that much more and I am seriously thinking about that for myself...Thanks for sharing your information..clancey.

 

[anonymous1977]

Isnt my install cost and hearth higher than what you have?