Wondering if it is recommended to use a Grate or not with this stove?? I Am using one, Have for 14 yrs. Now seeing that new stoves recommend not using one I wonder if this would do better without it. I don't get nearly the burn times I should and I have everything up to par (Liner, New door gaskets, good wood etc) Any thoughts?? Thanks
Grate or No Grate on Buck 27000??
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loose the grate you can fit more wood and air wont be able to get under the wood as much both things will increase burn times
Good points. Next time it cools enough to clean I'll take the grate out and try it like that. I should be swapping to the new stove but I have to go to Brazil for work and the wife doesn't want to left with something she's not familiar with. Cant blame her I guess..
pokatink
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I know this thread is old, but I got on here to ask the same. Grate or No grate, by what I read I may try it without the grate and see if my burn times increase. I have the buck 27000.
rox3406
Burning Hunk
I realize this post is a bit old, but I am going to be running a 27000 as a standalone in my garage. The stove I got has some kind of a frame assembly in the very front of the stove that has two large pins that go down through it and the firedogs go into that. There are two pieces of refactory insulation on the bottom. Do I need that insulation lining the bottom for just wood burning? And can I just line the bottom with fire bricks and get rid of that and the dogs? Seems like all that stuff in there will make it a bear to clean the ash out to me.
I will add a picture of the assembly I am trying to describe when I get home later. Thanks for any help/thoughts
I will add a picture of the assembly I am trying to describe when I get home later. Thanks for any help/thoughts
Wisco Shepherd
Minister of Fire
Might want to check with your insurance that this is ok. Likely voids your coverage in the event of a fire.
Actually they've been out already, saw I had one in the garage for 15 years. Didn't say anything. They might have not said anything because the all four walls of the garage are 12-in thick concrete 12 ft up to the rafters. It's detached too btw. You would have to try extra hard to catch that building on fire so I don't care if they didn't.
But thanks, do you have any experience with the 27000 buck?
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Just because the agent came by and didn't say anything does not mean that if a fire happened they would pay out since wood stoves are illegal in garages in the USA. Insurance companies look for any reason to deny a claim so unless it specifically says in writing that they are ok with an illegal wood stove in your garage I highly doubt you get paid.
I am an attorney and quite aware what insurance companies do. First of all, for them to have a legitimate ability to deny me for a claim of my garage burning down it would have to have been caused by the excluded thing, ie. the wood stove. If for example, an electrical fire causes it to burn down, they absolutely can't go in there and say well you have a wood stove and even though it didn't cause the fire, we are going to exclude your coverage. Absolutely cannot do that.
"Illegal" is a strong way of putting by the way. Against some codes? Perhaps. Criminally punishable? I highly doubt it.
In case I wasn't clear, again, my garage is constructed in a manner and of material that if I were to burn it down, frankly, I don't deserve for it to be covered. I would have to go full yum yum and intentionally try (which would be "illegal") to burn down a building that has concrete poured walls (with an appropriately installed chimney, which it is). Said building is not connected to my house thus any fire would be restricted to the rafters and contents in that garage. The walls would remain so essentially I would have to get new rafters and probably some steel roof. If I somehow managed to do that, I deserve to foot the bill based on the foregoing.
I appreciate your concern, but, again, in case I wasn't clear, I don't care. I care about what firedogs, bricks or grates people use or don't use in their Buck 27000s.
"Illegal" is a strong way of putting by the way. Against some codes? Perhaps. Criminally punishable? I highly doubt it.
In case I wasn't clear, again, my garage is constructed in a manner and of material that if I were to burn it down, frankly, I don't deserve for it to be covered. I would have to go full yum yum and intentionally try (which would be "illegal") to burn down a building that has concrete poured walls (with an appropriately installed chimney, which it is). Said building is not connected to my house thus any fire would be restricted to the rafters and contents in that garage. The walls would remain so essentially I would have to get new rafters and probably some steel roof. If I somehow managed to do that, I deserve to foot the bill based on the foregoing.
I appreciate your concern, but, again, in case I wasn't clear, I don't care. I care about what firedogs, bricks or grates people use or don't use in their Buck 27000s.
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If the stove is on a cement floor then using firebricks should be ok.
Re, safety. Even with concrete walls, clearances to combustibles are important. This can be cabinets, benches, shelving, or anything combustible. If there is no UL lab certificate on the stove then the clearance requirement in all directions is 36" If there are volatiles like gasoline then elevating the stove on an 18" non-combustible platform is recommended.
Thanks. I will put legs on it to get it up off the ground some but I think I'll be fine with bricks on the bottom as well.
To be clear, I've had a wood stove in this building for 15 years. I'm just swapping out the stove so I'm pretty acutely aware of how to keep combustibles away from it. I also have a stand-alone and an insert in my house that I've been using for 25 years.
To the extent there's any gas in that garage, I always remove the cans and put them in my shed if I'm burning but I see no reason why I couldn't elevate it 18" in anyhow would just save me from bending over to clean it out and load it
To be clear, I've had a wood stove in this building for 15 years. I'm just swapping out the stove so I'm pretty acutely aware of how to keep combustibles away from it. I also have a stand-alone and an insert in my house that I've been using for 25 years.
To the extent there's any gas in that garage, I always remove the cans and put them in my shed if I'm burning but I see no reason why I couldn't elevate it 18" in anyhow would just save me from bending over to clean it out and load it
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The 18" thing is Canadian code and makes much more sense to me than the ban on them we have. As long as you are aware of the risks no need to harp on about it. The buck 2700 never had any sort of grate in it. It must have been added
I'll take a picture of what's in it. It's not really a "grate." The discussion that transpired about my insurance issues distracted me from doing that part of what I said.
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