How many Whitfield Advantage II Owner view this forum and What problems do you have or had, or any

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Mr Whitfield

Feeling the Heat
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Feb 1, 2007
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Northern Cailfornia
I would like to know how many Whitfield Owner are out there looking at this website, I know there are alot of these stove and what problems have you had, how old is your stove, How many ton's do you burn a year?
Problems:
Years Owned:
Ton's Burned a Year:
Self Igniting:
I think this is one of the best stove out there. (I know you think I'm crazy, but owning 3 Advantage's I can steal parts from one.)
Thanks
aka Mr Whitfield
 
I believe I have an Advantage 11 Whitfield. I say I believe I do as the back of the unit has the serial number as WH04086 and then stamped P11 Traditions. I have had overall very good luck with this system except this year. The igniter went and I replaced it which wasn't very easy due to the clearance allotted even after removing the blower.

While running it without the thermostat( due to not having a working igniter), the unit eventually would not stay lit. I cleaned ,cleaned and cleaned some more to no avail. I "bypassed all the "snap switches again nothing. I have ordered another Photoeye with a kit to move the eye into the auger housing and hope that is the issue there. The unit I have has the "eye" not located in the auger assemble housing but rather has a small slit in the housing and the "eye" sits off that slit but mounted under the hopper.

Overall I really like this machine. This year is trying but I have two tons of pellets and can't wait to use them
 
You do not have a Advantage II, you have a Tradition. The advantage does not have photo eye's.
 
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I have a Whitfield Advantage Insert (1997). I have not had any issues with this stove. I did own a Whitfield Quest Freestanding stove and had a major problem with pellets building up in the grate. This started from the day the stove was installed. It did not matter what brand of pellets I used. I would have the combustion air maxed out and the pellet feed on minimum, yet pellets would still build up in the grate.

I finaly ended up giving the stove away and then purchased a Harman P-38. No problems or pellet buid up with this stove.
 
I have two Whitfield II-T freestanders. One in the basement is 20 years old; one in the garage is 15. I used to burn 2-3 tons a year in the basement, but a few years ago pellets jumped from $3 to $5 and I've steadily reduced useage to less than a ton. Neither stove is self-igniting--that feature was said to be unreliable in those days. The stove in the garage doesn't get used that much, so no repairs. The other one got a new auger motor 10 years ago, and a new mother board in 2001.

I'm just starting to help a lady with her stove problem. Pellets stop feeding for no reason. I didn't have any tools with me but what I observed is that the auger feed light continues to light but no pellets drop, both fans continue. I'm going to check motor operation, gears, end play, etc.
 
Hi All,

I have a Whitfield Advantage II-T. It's been a wonderful stove. Our furnace ran out on new years day, and this think heated our house for the month... a lifesiver.

I did run into a problem this morning. I opened up the front to give it a good cleaning... but when I opened the door, the bottom mounting bolt and the door fell off.

So the question I have is, does anyone know where I can buy a new mounting bolt for the door hinge? the fun part will be extracting the broken piece from the main unit...ugghh.

Any help is appreciated.
 
Advantage II insert

Years Owned: me - 6 months, previous house owner had it since 1995 (I think).
Ton’s Burned a Year: So far just under 2 tons
Self Igniting: No
Pellets: Pike Pellets. Not sure the quality of these, the forums seem to be divided on them. Bought them last August at HD because of the price.

Problems:
1. Auger motor problem, fixed with the washer fix from Mike Butkus who has a great site at http://www.butkus.org/whitfield_pellet_stove.htm Unfortunately the auger motor totally failed after that and had to be replaced

2. A lot of fly ash buildup. I clean it out twice a day, which after researching here seems really excessive. After reading through this forum (lot of great info here) I am attempting to adjust the damper and the combustion fan to see if that helps. I think I need to replace the door gasket as well. I have no idea on the maintenance done by previous owners. Can't judge by the rest of the house because some things were extremely well maintained and other horribly.
 
My T-300 has been a paperweight from the day it was manufactured. It has NEVER run as it was supposed to...Even after being re- installed by the dealer. It was taken back to the shop, cleaned, the board replaced, limit switches replaced, photo eye replaced, pressure switch replaced, and finally the combustion motor replaced. Two weeks later dropped on my doorstep saying that their "technicians" could not get it to run and that Lennox was of no help to them. MY PROBLEM ...NO REFUND!
From my porch, I loaded it into the back of my pick-up with a plywood "For Sale" sign explaining my reasons for my dis-satisfaction, the local dealer's name and my phone #. I then left my truck parked at the local WAL-MART located about 1/8 mile from his shop. Six hrs later I was phoned that the area Rep. would come re-install and "assess" the problem. This "Wizard" (who, by the way, claimed to own a T-300) calibrated the feed to MINIMUM,the air to MAXIMUM and opened the damper to FULL just to burn the pellets off as they filled the box. He then said that would do the trick & that I wouldn't be able to use the LOW OR HIGH heat settings...Just MEDIUM. Augh!
Realize this all took over a month since the stove first "entered my life". I spent my days on line as well as on the phone and even at the courthouse trying to resolve my $3900.00 mistake. My nights wire spent "winking" in a chair in front of the stove listening for the almost hourly "CLICK" telling me it's time for a full clean (yes, the photo-eye too) and a restart. I was even told by a Lennox Rep. that yes although they had purchased Whitfield, It was considered the "Red headed step child" of the company, and that there was no-body to speak to that knew much about "Lennox Hearth" products (as opposed to Lennox Heating). So much for spending extra for the security of name brand customer service!
Four years later...I have had the stove COMPLETELY dis-assembled on my bench. fans, motors and budhings out, wiring gutted you name it. With the help of an unusually bright friend (The sober one) and a few....well, let's just say warranty voiding modifications, I've got what could be described as a "working" pellet stove! Not perfect mind you, but with QUALITY pellets and constant attention, I have actually managed to heat my Wisconsin home by pellet this year!
"Maybe,I, on the other hand, will get a GOOD Whitfield/Lenox" you say?.... Ponder over the reserch and development or design features that this company has implemented before you decide to purchase.

THE GOOD:
1. Nice enamel finish (Huge selling point for the wife)
2. Woodstove-like appearance, LARGE window

THE BAD:
1. Assembly from the factory is terrible! 11 missing fasteners, 3 missing spacers causing panel misalignment and the decibel level of small aircraft as the unit is loose and just won't sit squarely on the floor unless thoroughly gone through. High temp sealant was gobbed everywhere. Some even interfering with moving parts and pellet feed. Easy fix w/a razor blade. Almost ALL self tapping screws into sheet metal were stripped. one size larger fixed most issues.
2. THIS IS NOT A SEALED UNIT!!! Throw your cold air intake away! Remove the back panel, see that the intake hose ends there...And the bottom and side are open to the room. There are even slots between the door and the glass to let ROOM AIR INTO THE COMBUSTION AREA and you are instructed to keep these clear by pushing cardboard through them each time you clean the stove! ( I use my stove dealers business card as that's all it's good for). So much for efficiency.
3. The ever so petite ash pan. We at home have dubbed it "The Brownie pan" Problem: Think about it... This pan could be 5 foot by 5 foot, but at only 1 1/2 inches deep, how long can it take for your ash pile under the firebox to reach 1 1/2 inches high thus preventing your ash to fall through and yes, current owners,...the firebox to start piling over with pellets? Solution: Empty the ash pan every ONE bag of pellets (Depending on the brand). Problem:The constant pulling of the "Brownie Pan" will have your once clean home completely covered in ash in a matter of weeks. Easier to repaint than to wash..I've done it...Twice.
4. Like painting you say? Excellent because the soot is still flying! If you'll notice, even on the generic units sold at Fleet & Farm, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, etc. The heat exchangers are cleared by pulling a knob or lever on the exterior of the stove. It's almost "fun" as you can just about do it every time you walk by the stove. Lennox, not so fun. First you'd best lay something on the floor in front of the stove, because the door while fully open (yes Billy, you must open the door) is surely large enough that it extends past most hearth pads dropping soot onto the floor. With the door open, reach into the stove just above the exchanger plate, grab the soot covered hook, (or use the hole in the back end of the clinker tool provided by grabbing the soot covered head of the tool). Next, carefully pull the assembly toward you until all soot and ash are pulled forward from the exchanger tubes and onto your hearth pad and carpet. If some manages to land on the stove floor don't worry as it too will soon enter your living space in the form of a giant dust cloud. NOTE:This method has even motivated me to paint adjoining rooms in the house!
5. Ask your sales person to DEMONSTRATE how to remove the eye AND clean it's filter. THE filter IS NOT ON THE EYE!!! The eye lifts out easily as it is attached to the cover... The filter however, is hidden waaaay down inside the housing held in by two tiny metric nuts that you WILL drop into the auger at least once. The whole operation is done completely blind as well as one handed. The filter is by the way amber PLASTIC. Heat resistant or not, dust and heat will leave the once smooth plastic pitted and rough causing ash to cling to it almost immediately. The photo eye then cannot sense the flame and will cut power to your auger motor. I remedied this problem by cutting my own lens out of tempered glass. I used clear but if your stove is located where direct sunlight will enter the firebox I would use amber to prevent pellets dropping in a no-fire situation. Since installing the glass eye, (We call it Sammy.....Davis), I have not had to clean it as i did every Sunday. It's been about NINE WEEKS n
 
Sorry to hear about your problem, but this question was for Advantage II owners not T-300.
 
1999 Whitfield Advantge 2 T i bought new for $1800
ZERO mechanical problems except added auger washer 3-4 yrs ago, same motors and augers
Burn 2-3 tons per year 11 years now
Pellets Whatever i can find the cheapest, after being here and realizing about all the different pellets and there heat output, better off not knowing my opinion.

Clean it out maybe once a week, as said above cleaning it twice a day, let it build up till you cant see the glass!!
 
My details are in the signature. Even though the stove is 12 years old, this is it's second season. Just finishing my first ton this season.
The only issue I had was Christmas Day we had winds out of the South at 35mph and gusting higher. Couldn't keep the stove running.
From posts on this forum, I learned th the wind was blowing in my horizontal exhaust and tripping the pressure switch. I will remedy my exhaust system next spring. Otherwise it's great. No more $400 electrical bills.
 
newly aquired advantage in the garage
less than 10 bags burned so far, but when needed the garage is warm.
auger was starting to screech when getting startedly, replaced with a standby and did the washer trick listed on Butkus
manual lighting.
Just getting started but the stoves seem to work even after being abused. Seems many other brands look similar.
I have 4 whitfields in my garage. obsessive compulsive-not me. all 1995 and earlier.

Started looking for a pellet stove to heat my garage last summer, offerd a craigslist ad $300 for an advantage and got a nasty email back!
Found an advantage insert and prodigy freestanding for free. Tried to fix the prodigy first but way too many problems, and I didn’t like the idea of a positive pressure fire box, gave up on it. Prodigy dead, advantage insert fired up without even cleaning (got the cool wrap window, ultra grate and electronic control board) had to buy an old advantage freestanding (older burn pot and controls)for $200, which fired right up, to turn newer insert into freestanding.
then found another advantage freestanding for free (ultra grate and electronic control board) it obviously didn’t run right. All smoked up,non original C-frame combustion motor and the guy said it only had one burn setting. I put the thermostat jumper wire that was stapled to the owners manual he gave me on the control board, cleaned it out and it ran beautifly.
even got the vent pipe off craigslist.

hoping to sell the older advantage as a reconstructed insert.
thinking of replacing my basement woodstove with the last advantage I got free
need to get rid of the old prodigy!

Thank you to all who help us newcomers understand how these stoves work!
 
Have had an Advantage IIT for 4 years. Igniter never worked. First 3 years stove worked reasonably well but shut off unexpectedly for no apparent reason. Sends smoke into house when it shuts down. Now in year 4, have lazy sooty fire, that will not run for more than 10 minutes. Tried cleaning baffles, motor on right side, checked outlet, clear. Finding qualified service impossible in my area. The whole pellet stove experience was disappointing from, humping the pellet bags, the smoke in house, unreliability etc. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I plan to upgrade my existing heating system and take advantage of the $1500 tax credit.
 
My Advantage II was born in 1992. I used to run roughly 5 tons a year through it. I don't use it as much anymore because i brought it up to the cottage as a replacement for the woodstove. The only problem I had with it was this year the auger got jammed with fines, after poking it clean through the pellet chute and wiggling the auger shaft and started working again - that was a 30 minute hassle, but the only one I've had in 5 years. Great stove!
 
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