Ok so I had bought some Husquvarna synthetic blend oil the other day at my local Family Farm And Home for $6.33 for the 6.4 oz. bottle. Today I was at TSC and they had Jonsered same size and synthetic blend for $3.99. Does anyone know if the quality of the formula is the same or comparable?
Husquvarna 2 cycle oil vs. Jonsered
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yeah may be owned by them now but there still could be differences in quality vs. just the name. I bought a couple of bottles to run.
It is on the Jonsered site.
http://www.jonsered.com/int/accessories-parts/lubricants/two-stroke-oils/
http://www.jonsered.com/int/accessories-parts/lubricants/two-stroke-oils/
BB, it's a synthetic blend oil right on the red bottle I'm looking at. The oil your referencing on the Jonsered site is different. I'm really surprised the JASO FD rating is not on either bottle of oil.
Ashful
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People find odd things to worry about.
Quoting Bigg Redd, "using the wrong name-brand 2-stroke oil screwed up my chainsaw," said no one... ever.
Quoting Bigg Redd, "using the wrong name-brand 2-stroke oil screwed up my chainsaw," said no one... ever.
Chem E's in our lube plants used to get a chuckle from some of this stuff. I asked a couple one day if there was any difference between Mobil Super and the stuff we sold branded for K-Mart. "Yeah, their label isn't as pretty as ours.".
Ashful
Minister of Fire
I buy whatever name-brand oil the store has on their shelf, be it Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo, or Jonsered. My last 6-pack was Stihl, and I have 3 Jonsered's in the shed right now. I do avoid no-name and store-brand stuff, not that I have any justification for doing so, but I do figure the maker of any upper-end equipment is going to put a decent grade of oil behind their label. Most of them base their warranty on use of their oil.
Agreed, however, I will take this a step further: I will run anything that says "2 stroke oil" in any language in any air cooled 2 stroke engine. In fact, I'd run 30w motor oil in a pinch, or any other motor oil for that matter. I'm only slightly pickier when it comes to liquid cooled 2 stroke engines. To date I've had approximately zero oil related engine failures in my life.
Yup, I run anything but will still buy a name brand when it comes on sale and it's the same price as generic. If it makes you feel good and you want to spend the extra money, buy whatever tickles your fancy.
It's far more important how you run your saw and and not use old gas that's been sitting around for a year.
It's far more important how you run your saw and and not use old gas that's been sitting around for a year.
English BoB
Minister of Fire
The only oil failure Ive had was when I forgot to shake the gas can at the start of the season. Now it gets shaken every time before filling.
Walmart oil work fine as does their bar oil.
bob
Walmart oil work fine as does their bar oil.
bob
Lube snobbery is as funny as it was with gasoline prior to the oil embargo in 1973. Prior to that you folks would not believe the brand loyalty. Virtually everybody had a gas brand that was the only one they would buy and a motor oil that was the only one that wouldn't destroy their engine. Dad had me convinced that anything but Texaco gas and Havoline oil would destroy my 1950 Chevy.
A few weeks of sitting in line to buy five gallons of anything they could get and their engine didn't crater changed that forever. Now everybody looks at that price sign and that is it.
The stuff is lab spec'ed at the refinery or lube plant and is exactly the same thing if it has the same spec. At Mobil we started the detergent thing as an advertising winner. One of our refinery managers said one day "Yep. We have so much detergent in our gas that bubbles are flooding the tank farm.".
A few weeks of sitting in line to buy five gallons of anything they could get and their engine didn't crater changed that forever. Now everybody looks at that price sign and that is it.
The stuff is lab spec'ed at the refinery or lube plant and is exactly the same thing if it has the same spec. At Mobil we started the detergent thing as an advertising winner. One of our refinery managers said one day "Yep. We have so much detergent in our gas that bubbles are flooding the tank farm.".
Quaker state oil turns into a gelatin type substance, chocking the intake valleys full in late 70s v8s. Cuz my pappy told me so
I will caution you with an anecdotal story to point out how bad of an idea this may be.
In college I worked a fuel & oils research project funded by a private label, small oil company here in the Midwest. Some of our findings in the research were presented at the ASME Fuels & Oils conference in Beijing (just to put in perspective that this research wasn't a joke, it was legit research). One of the first products we tested was the funding company's private label 2-stroke oil. It passed all of the standardized testing and it looked like an excellent oil. Problem was, it killed every test engine we used within about 50 operating hours. Scored pistons, stuck rings, heavy deposits of "gunk", fouled up fuel & exhaust systems. It was a total mess. How could an oil that passed all of the lubricity, viscosity, etc testing do so poorly in an engine? When you try to make a product that just isn't cut out for a task into something it's not, just to get a slice of the profits in that market sector anything can happen. So what was the vendor to do? Scrap all the money they had invested in developing this oil before it even hit the market? Nah, they're not giving up that easy. Their solution to the problem was: wait for it, "we're going to buy some cheap synthetic 2-stroke oil in bulk and blend it at about 1:3 (1 part synthetic, 3 parts their oil) and hope that is enough to keep the deposits from forming". They never had us re-test their blended oil; I think they were afraid of the results. They went ahead and marketed the oil anyways. I am not sure what brand/label they marketed it under so I can't even say what to watch out for. Because it passed all the tests they can legally label the bottle as such, yet the oil within is an engine killer.
The point of all this: after working that project and knowing that oil (and likely numerous others) was out there under some private label that I had no way of knowing was good or not, I resolved that as cheap as 2-stroke oil is, I will NEVER risk my engines on oil that isn't from a reputable manufacturer.
To each his own, but I spend less than $10/year on enough Stihl 2-stroke oil to keep me full on firewood and run my leaf-blower & string trimmer all year long. $1000+ of 2-stroke equipment vs. $2-3/yr in savings on oil? Not even worth the risk IMHO.
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