Looking for Tips for a very Noisy Winch on an Escalara Stair Cat?

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Don2222

Don2222

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Hello

I pick this up last Sunday. It works fine but sure needs some type of lube!
Rule 14S winch motor.
ISO 8849 Marine ITT Rule Gloucester MA 01930 USA
1400 lb 12 VDC

See video. Any tips on what should be done here?

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With you surely it will be Moly. ;lol

Sounds just like every small winch I have ever owned.
 
Sounds like inexpensive spur cut gears meshing. Probably any grease would work, but I expect they'll always be noisy.
 
heat seeker said:
Sounds like inexpensive spur cut gears meshing. Probably any grease would work, but I expect they'll always be noisy.
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Where should the grease be applied?
 
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One glob in each ear should do it. :rolleyes:
 
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fossil said:
One glob in each ear should do it. :rolleyes:
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True!

But I would put it in the gear case, which would probably entail opening it up. Is there, by any chance, an oil port or grease fitting?

If it's new, I would expect there's grease/oil in there, and it's just the way it is - noisy. You get what you pay for...
 
heat seeker said:
True!

But I would put it in the gear case, which would probably entail opening it up. Is there, by any chance, an oil port or grease fitting?

If it's new, I would expect there's grease/oil in there, and it's just the way it is - noisy. You get what you pay for...
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It is about 7 years old. I could not afford a new one for $3k plus.It does work and The winch motor can be replaced easily.
Also thiinking about rehabbing a bit with some paint. It is great for loading pickup trucks, it certainly does do the job! It is very strong. I do not see any grease fittings.
 
Well, for $3K, it's not a cheap piece of junk! I would see if the gearcase can be opened up, and if so, put, or add, some heavy duty gear grease in there.
How much weight is it rated for?
 
heat seeker said:
Well, for $3K, it's not a cheap piece of junk! I would see if the gearcase can be opened up, and if so, put, or add, some heavy duty gear grease in there.
How much weight is it rated for?
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Thanks, it states it is rated for 1400lb on the winch motor tag in pic in my first post.
 
You should be able to pull it apart, clean out any dry dead grease and re-do it.

I bought a 7 or 8 yr old Warn M-8000 off CL a while back. It had a new motor on it but was rather noisy and hard to free spool cable out by hand. The grease in the planatery gear case was more like tar. Soaked everything in keroseene, dried, applied new grease. I just used a good quality (Castrol) synthetic wheel bearing grease. The winch is much quieter and free spools easily now.
 
mustash29 said:
You should be able to pull it apart, clean out any dry dead grease and re-do it.

I bought a 7 or 8 yr old Warn M-8000 off CL a while back. It had a new motor on it but was rather noisy and hard to free spool cable out by hand. The grease in the planatery gear case was more like tar. Soaked everything in keroseene, dried, applied new grease. I just used a good quality (Castrol) synthetic wheel bearing grease. The winch is much quieter and free spools easily now.
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Great info, yes when the winch gets close to the ground (Little wire left on winch) the winch wire gets sticky. Is that what you mean by not doing Free Spool?
 
Truck & ATV winches, etc. typically have a motor, connected to a long shaft, with a brake assembly on it. The shaft then connects to the gear set and cable drum. The clutch disconnects the cable drum from the gears and/or motor & brake assembly, allowing you to freely pull cable off the drum (free spooling) instead of running the motor in the "cable out" direction.

http://www.depcopump.com/datasheets/rule/Rule_catalog.pdf Looking at page 45 and your video, it appears that winch does not have a clutch knob. The gears would be inside the fat ring on the left, between the motor and cable drum. If you can get it apart, some new grease might quiet it down.

Be careful with that cable. You should have a neat & tight wrap around the drum. That "birds nest" you have going on there is not good. It will cause the cable to kink & wear fast. The cable will abrade itself as it gets pulled tight in those loose wraps.
 
And it wouldn't hurt a thing to use dry lube (spray) on the cable. Helps to minimize the abrasion factor.
 
Thanks for the info
 
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