NC-30-Third burn, still same starting problems.

[10-cc]

I have the same setup, frighted it for years. I do not use my stove 24/7, weekends only so frequent start ups so stove temp=outside temp. Tried it all Hair Dryer, torch 1500W electrical heater in the stove for 20 minutes..Nada.

The ONLY solution is this (@your Owen risk $ insurance) But it WORKS:


http://www.tjernlund.com/retail/auto-draft.htm

Also this product is available, I did not tested it, Has anyone?


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[katwillny]

I have the same setup, frighted it for years. I do not use my stove 24/7, weekends only so frequent start ups so stove temp=outside temp. Tried it all Hair Dryer, torch 1500W electrical heater in the stove for 20 minutes..Nada.

The ONLY solution is this (@your Owen risk $ insurance) But it WORKS:


http://www.tjernlund.com/retail/auto-draft.htm

Also this product is available, I did not tested it, Has anyone?


(broken link removed to http://www.hvacsolutionsdirect.com/products/Dampers-Draft-Controls/Wood-Stove-Vent-Air-Draft-Inducers/DRAW-COLLAR-Wood-Stove-Chimney-Draft-Inducer-SKU752.html)

Looks like a great product but for a price of $350 I cant really justify it. I will try the hair dryer as Pen suggested and see if I get relief from the smoke. thanks tho.

 

[katwillny]

Pen,
Do you stuff the hair dryer before or after you light the stove? does it matter when its done?

I see no reason it couldn't go there for a few minutes on high w/ the door closed to get things going in the right direction before putting a match to anything.

In all honesty, I've only ever done it after the fact (once smoke starts filling the house). I've had to do it enough times now that I can usually tell it's going to happen and stick the hair dryer back there before much smoke comes in from the pipe joints and the air intake itself.

Regardless, the key is doing it w/ the door closed if you are going to put the hair dryer into the intake. Then the pressurized and warm air you are adding has only one way to go, up.

pen

Please pay no attention to the dirt :red: It is a basement install after all.

OH CRAP it WORKED PEN. This is the first cold start without getting a house full of smoke. I shoved the hair dryer into the back of the stove for about 3 minutes then carefully spread the ceramic boards on top inside the stove and shoved the dryer there for about 2 minutes. NOT ONE PUFF of smoke came into the house. Its very mild out and damp, in the past that was a combination for a face full of smoke and my asthma picking up. Thanks PEN for the idea. Genius.

 

[BrotherBart]

If ya have to do it during a power failure where the hair dryer isn't an option just shift one of the baffle boards over the top of the other one and put a Super Cedar or other fire starter in the back under the flue outlet.

Then move it back in place and start'er up after it starts drawing. Wear the gloves.

 

[katwillny]

If ya have to do it during a power failure where the hair dryer isn't an option just shift one of the baffle boards over the top of the other one and put a Super Cedar or other fire starter in the back under the flue outlet.

Then move it back in place and start'er up after it starts drawing. Wear the gloves.

Thanks Brother. Almost time to start baking in the stove again. hahaha.

 

[pen]

OH CRAP it WORKED PEN. .

As it should be!

Glad to hear it.

Also, as BB eluded to, all it takes it hot air in the right direction. Doesn't matter what form it comes in. If the system is going to work, it will. But sometimes it takes encouragement.

pen

 

[mgh-pa]

The things you learn on this site! Just lit her up, and the hair dryer worked perfectly! I lit the fire, closed the door, and ran the hair dryer for a minute or two, got it roaring, and then cracked the door a bit for extra encouragement, and NO SMOKE!

Awesome tip, guys. Thanks a lot.

 

[pen]

Outstanding! Glad to hear it.

pen

 

[katwillny]

Im 2 for 2 my friends. Once again today i lit the stove in very damp weather. In fact its a deluge outside. 60 seconds hair dryer in the back and 60 seconds up the pipe by moving the panels to the side. Zero smoke. Thanks for the Post MGH-PA. and ofcouse Pen for the idea.

 

[iceisasolid]

one more thing , being as the stove is in the basement (sorry missed that part) you have one more obstacle to deal with , you are below the "zero pressure line' in the house.



you need a 5 gallon bucket and some 3 inch PVC pipe.
drill a 3 inch hole in the sill plate to insert the PVC through, then a 90 elbow down the wall stopping 3 inches off the floor inside of the bucket.

what this will do is let cold air in from outside but trap it in the bucket 9our cold air well. since the air in the basement is warmer than the air coming down the pipe it wil not spill out of the bucket unless teh house "draws" it off the top of the bucket, this air will allow the constant equalization of pressure in the basement with control you would not have if a window were cracked. you only get the air you need for the flu to pull.

its cheap, easy to do and it honestly works.

Steve can you sketch a quick diagram about this lock system you mention?

-Ray