Stove location in front of zero clearance fp

[zrtmatos]

I wanted to get an idea of how many people have installed a free standing ps in front, not in their zero clearance fireplace? Also, how they made their connection would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Any pics of their installation would be really appreciated for ideas.

 

[zrtmatos]

I see folks have looked at this post but have not left any ideas?

 

[begreen]

Should be ok as long as the ZC is not modified, clearances are honored and a full-length stainless liner is run up to the chimney cap.

 

[zrtmatos]

Thanks for the replies. The only modification I can see needing to do would be probably removing the damper by-pass at the bottom of the chimney. It seems to come across the middle of what looks like an 8 inch flue opening all the way up. I can't seem to see anyway of getting a 4 inch flue around it and I believe I need to seal off the opening anyway to make it airtight.

Has anyone ever used chimneylinerdepot.com before? They price out a kit that includes 20' of stainless steel lining, T and cap at about $350.

The stove calls for a 3 inch pipe but since I calculate an EVL up that high to be up there I figured go to the next size and would be easier to clean.

 

[alternativeheat]

Thanks for the replies. The only modification I can see needing to do would be probably removing the damper by-pass at the bottom of the chimney. It seems to come across the middle of what looks like an 8 inch flue opening all the way up. I can't seem to see anyway of getting a 4 inch flue around it and I believe I need to seal off the opening anyway to make it airtight.

Has anyone ever used chimneylinerdepot.com before? They price out a kit that includes 20' of stainless steel lining, T and cap at about $250.

The stove calls for a 3 inch pipe but since I calculate an EVL up that high to be up there I figured go to the next size and would be easier to clean.

That would be correct, all of the above. And I would add, really free flowing draft to the list with the 4" liner . What you do at the base of the chimney after the damper is removed is kind of dictated by the install instructions for the stove. A good cap job at the top though really stops draft and heat from the house escaping up the chimney. Non the less on my install into a fireplace ( free standing on the hearth pad in front) I insulated above the smoke shelf anyway.

I have not used the supplier you mentioned but the prices look good.

 

[railfanron]

Look at my avatar. My exhaust runs up the fireplace chimney. It's 4" flex with a 3" to 4" adapter tee. I took out the damper and blocked the rest of the pipe at the top of the fire place. I installed the new chimney top, took out the glass doors and put in a sheet metal blank in there place. I used the oak from the fireplace. Just unhooked it and moved it for the pellet burner.
Ron

 

[tjnamtiw]

All the info above sounds about right. How tall is your chimney? You mentioned a 20' kit of flex. Just remember vertical EVL is 1/2 of the length. You should have just a few feet of horizontal and one 90 (actually a Tee). A 3" would probably work and would get past your damper without the hassle of removing it. I have 17' of vertical on my inserts and have NO problem with draft.

 

[zrtmatos]

Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately from what I see most have their stoves installed in a masonry fireplace. Mine is a very basic zcp with no masony except for the covering on the outside. See enclosed pic. This doesn't lend me to put anything in except for one in front of the zcp on the 18 inch x 48 inch non-combustible floor. Anyone have any suggestions for a small stove?

 

[tjnamtiw]

There are some good, in-depth posts on here including pictures of people who installed pellet stoves into prefab fireplace enclosure. Use the search to locate them but I can tell you, it's work! If you have the room, your approach is much, much easier and reversible if you ever want to move. The next owner may not want that set up and you can take the stove with you and put the fireplace back to original.
The Quad Sante Fe is a good, small unit that's easy to operate and maintain, but I'm partial.