stoves that don't have secondary tubes, vermiculite board

[BWS001]

So I've owned a couple stoves... I've got a PE super and owned a Spectrum at the last house.. the shop had a drolet... and I've had something else don't remember what it was.. as it was somewhat useless and I got rid of it..

Long story short.. I like my PE's with the baffle and reburn/air wash system.. I need another stove... but I don't wanna waste my time looking at every model out there.. I detest the tubes and vermiculite boards.. They make the stove seem cheap they are a another place to fail.. ie moving logs around and the tube is hot and boom there is a dent and they don't work right anymore.. or worse the cheap cotter pin breaks and the tube falls out.. the vermiculite breaks... I'm sure for some people they work just fine.. we burn 5-6 cords a years and the stove runs continuously from late October to mid march..

So who else has a system that doesn't have pieced together tubes or easily moving parts (like the vermiculite board above them) It doesn't have to be a PE and I'm not sure I want a catalytic... we don't have a lot of hardwood available...

 

[Wisco Shepherd]

So no secondary burn tubes or a catalyst? Better start cruising facebook for old smoke dragons.

 

[BWS001]

So no secondary burn tubes or a catalyst? Better start cruising facebook for old smoke dragons.

really, nobody else has a system like PE?

 

[Wisco Shepherd]

really, nobody else has a system like PE?

I won't claim that I don't know enough manufacturers. But most secondary burn systems seem to use tubes, catalysts, or both(Like my Kuma which has tubes that bolt in snug and a metal baffle with insulation behind). You can run a catalyst stove on softwoods BTW.

 

[Todd]

If you can find a Jotul F45 or F55 they use a stainless baffle system with no tubes or fragile ceramic boards. They were discontinued last year but some dealers can still find them in warehouses.

 

[brenndatomu]

the cheap cotter pin breaks and the tube falls out

Stainless cotter pins...problem solved