Has any one ever heard of a problem with this part on a summit (part #4), I think it is some sort of deflector plate for the flue, and if this is messed up would it cause high flue temps and lower stove top temps?
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I believe #4 is external, it looks like it turns the air from the back shield and sends it under the enameled stove top. If I remember right, the flue gasses go up between the baffle and the front of the stove box directly above the door, turn back towards the flue pipe, and then go up the flue pipe. With the pipe disconnected and the baffle removed, you can see directly into the firebox.
Ok the drawing sucks, it is my understanding there is a plate for the flue and can not find it in the drawing. It sits below the flue opening, maybe I am remembering wrong.
spark,
when the stove cools, you can remove the pin in the back center top of the stove that secures the secondary baffle, remove the baffle (careful it is heavy), and you have nothing but a 6" hole for the stovepipe. No deflector etc...
Heads up. Getting the baffle back into place can be a little bit of a struggle if your forearms are not like Popeye's.
when the stove cools, you can remove the pin in the back center top of the stove that secures the secondary baffle, remove the baffle (careful it is heavy), and you have nothing but a 6" hole for the stovepipe. No deflector etc...
Heads up. Getting the baffle back into place can be a little bit of a struggle if your forearms are not like Popeye's.
Thanks, I could have swore some one mentioned some sort of plate besides the baffle last spring, guess I am thinking of the baffle.madison said:
Perhaps you are referring to the Flame shield? This is basically a metal sheet that sits above the baffle and protrudes further to the front of the firebox than the baffle. It helps to keep too much flame from going up the flue, I think. At least for me, I will get higher flue temps quicker to the extent I have a fire with a lot of flame in the front of the box, and I assume the flue temps would get even higher without the shield.
Maybe that's what I was thinking about, is this a bolt in item that could get knocked loose or installed wrong?graycatman said:
Yes, one bolt, one nut back towards the flue opening (you have to either take the baffle out or remove your stovepipe to get to the bolt). Once in a while my flame shield vibrates against something and makes a ringing sound. Can't think how it could be installed wrong. To speculate: there may be a little play in it side-to-side, so if it was loose and got knocked to one side, perhaps a bit more flame could go towards the flue opening.
oldspark said:
I think the part you are referring to is part #15 in your owner's manual. I believe it is to keep the centre of the stove top from getting too hot by deflecting the flames. It probably does raise flue temps, though. Like graycatman said is sheet metal (stainless) and faces forward. You don't have to take the baffle out to verify if it is loose, just wait till the stove cools, and feel for it above the baffle. It should move up and down as the sheet metal flexes, but not side to side.
To tighten the nut (if needed), you can either remove the baffle, or the stovepipe, whichever is easier. The baffle weighs ~ 20 lbs.
If you decide to remove the baffle, have a spare baffle gasket on hand ($3), or make one like Hogwildz did.
There is a flame shield that mounts to the top of the inside of the stove. 1 bolt through a hole near the flue outlet holds the plate in place. It is a regular steel bolt and it will rot away.
I replaced mine last year (season 4) with a stainless steel bolt & nut. Also used neverseize on it.
The front of the flame shield slides into the slot at the front of the stove up top near where the air wash is.
The upper flame shield will swivel side to side as the slot it rests in at the front of the stove is wider than the flame shield.
It ain't going anywhere unless the bolt rots through, which will take a few years.
There is also another stainless steel flame shield that mounts on the top of the baffle. it covers the blanket that sits on top of the baffle.
I replaced mine last year (season 4) with a stainless steel bolt & nut. Also used neverseize on it.
The front of the flame shield slides into the slot at the front of the stove up top near where the air wash is.
The upper flame shield will swivel side to side as the slot it rests in at the front of the stove is wider than the flame shield.
It ain't going anywhere unless the bolt rots through, which will take a few years.
There is also another stainless steel flame shield that mounts on the top of the baffle. it covers the blanket that sits on top of the baffle.
Hogwildz said:
Hogwildz, did you weld the new bolt to the underside of the top, or drill right through the top and put a nut & bolt?
PE might have given you a new firebox ass'y under warranty, as that stud is part of the firebox.
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Jimbob said:
LOL, nah, the bolt actually passes through an eyehole that comes off the side of the outlet. A nut threads on the end of the bolt from up top. Was a PITA as the threads were corroded and semi frozen.
I thought it would break before loosening,. but it actually did loosen, but kind of rethreaded from the nut as it came out.
No welding needed for the bolt.
I'd gladly take a new stove though. Never even got the new baffle after they ok'd a new one.
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